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Gris - Jun 26, 2012 9:42:24 pm PDT #21343 of 30000
Hey. New board.

You know, I love your spicy brains and agree with what you are saying pretty much completely. But it doesn't change my visceral reaction that the movie is all sad and stuff when it's not boring. I'd like it more as a comic or novel, I think. Part of my boredom that is that I never quite buy in to Wayne's view of Dent as as such an all-encompassing powerful force for good. I just don't see a district attorney becoming that important a symbol, so a lot of setup is wasted on me. I also find the cell phone conundrum uninteresting, so there's another big idea with a lot of screen time that I don't care for. And now that I'm thinking about it, the ending doesn't work for me because I don't totally understand the point of Barman taking the blame. Is it to catalyze the cops, who as mentioned are so corrupt as to be laughable, or the people? Since I can't quite swallow a DA becoming a symbol for all that is right, I find the sacrifice of a symbol that certainly has power to be completely counterintuitive. I imagine that a lot of people in Gotham, who always believed the Batmanwas good, were far more demoralized by batman turning killer than they would be by an unexplained explosion and accident killing Harvey Dent.

I like Batmans side of the story, and think he is being noble but I'm not sure he's being smart.


le nubian - Jun 27, 2012 1:06:02 am PDT #21344 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I don't see TDK as sad though. The main thing that's sad: Batman at the end will be seen as a "bad guy" - that's the thing that made me exclaim each time I've seen the movie. I agree with Strega's take.

I wish they had problematized the notion that Batman was becoming a bad guy. If I were living in Gotham, I would probably feel as demoralized that Harvey Dent was corruptible than if Batman were a vigilante. Though I might be rooting for Batman as vigilante a bit more. If you lack faith in institutions, but had faith in Batman, does it really help if you retain faith in a martyr but lose faith in a living hero?


Vonnie K - Jun 27, 2012 5:33:04 am PDT #21345 of 30000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

So, I finally went around seeing MI: Ghost Protocol on DVD and had a super-fantastic time! Apparently I don't mind Tom Cruise that much now? He was a huge fun to watch. Especially during that ridiculous "scaling the skyscraper with a pair of sticky gloves" shthick. That was AWESOME.

Jerrrrremy Rennnnner. How so hot?


tiggy - Jun 27, 2012 5:59:45 am PDT #21346 of 30000
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

*sits with Vonnie*

that little lunge thing he did before he jumped into the big fan? that's something he really does to loosen up before a scene. Tom Cruise saw him do it and had the director work it into a scene.


Vonnie K - Jun 27, 2012 6:09:38 am PDT #21347 of 30000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

that little lunge thing he did before he jumped into the big fan?

Yeah, that really highlighted his... er, assets. He is a wee man (he's gotta be around the same height as Tom Cruise, no? I wonder whether that's one of the reasons he was picked for the role) but so compactly built. The whole package (hee hee /am twelve) really works for me. Boy, does it ever.


tiggy - Jun 27, 2012 6:21:46 am PDT #21348 of 30000
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

yeah...he and Tom are pretty much the same height. Jeremy's imdb profile claims 5'10", but there's no way. as long as he's about my height, i care not!


§ ita § - Jun 27, 2012 6:34:02 am PDT #21349 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

People told me "but he was great in Tropic Thunder!"

No, he was really irritating. I haven't enjoyed him in anything for ten years. I'm not really bargaining on that changing soon.

I just read an anecdote about Tom Hardy and Christian Bale hugging each other because they were really tired. Part of me is convinced that was a time bomb waiting to go off, but it seems to have been uneventful.


Vonnie K - Jun 27, 2012 6:43:26 am PDT #21350 of 30000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Jeremy's imdb profile claims 5'10"

HAHA. Oh, publicists. He's probably around 5'7". 5'8", tops. Which is plenty tall for me. Also: an age-appropriate crush-object!


tiggy - Jun 27, 2012 7:15:48 am PDT #21351 of 30000
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Tom's says a more a believable 5'7". Jeremy totally doesn't look 41. somebody on tumblr linked to one of his first commercials(which is a totally cheesy Koday commercial) and he looked to be about 16 or 17. he was 25. haha!

there was nothing great about Tropic Thunder, in my opinion. not my humour in the least.


§ ita § - Jun 27, 2012 7:25:14 am PDT #21352 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I liked almost everything else about Tropic Thunder. RDJ was golden.