A short bit on creating The Hulk for The Avengers (no actual demonstration of the process, but the shots of the stand-in models are kind of fun.) [link]
Have you ever been with a warrior woman?
Wash ,'Bushwhacked'
Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai
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Kalshane - Jun 22, 2012 4:34:27 pm PDT #21271 of 30000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
Zenkitty - Jun 22, 2012 5:26:14 pm PDT #21272 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Thanks, Kalshane, that was great!
Consuela - Jun 22, 2012 5:47:41 pm PDT #21273 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
OK, I ended up seeing Brave this afternoon.
Unlike Jessica, I was not grossly disappointed. I enjoyed it. It was funny, and scary, and beautiful, and occasionally a bit moving.
But I can see how people would be disappointed, because while it's fun and enjoyable, it's not marvelous. Erm, except for the visuals, which are, all the way through, splendid. It's just that Pixar has given us very high expectations for their movies: there's a level of complexity and subtlety in the best of them that Brave doesn't hit.
A bit of unspoilery detail: The setup is a bit thin, Merida comes across as a bit stupid (and as someone who has never heard any fairytales at all, which strikes me as unlikely), and the resolution is, in fact, so pat that I was sure that wasn't it. For such a fundamental disagreement, the end is too easy: on the other hand, it's a children's movie.
Also? Do not take a five-year-old: they will be terrified by at least three scenes.
And yet, for all that, it's very entertaining and I'm glad I went. Also, the theater was full of girls and women, with not a lot of boys in the audience.
§ ita § - Jun 22, 2012 5:55:52 pm PDT #21274 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Has anyone in a fairy tale read any fairy tales?
Is that a modern assumption?
DavidS - Jun 22, 2012 6:01:12 pm PDT #21275 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Actually there is a sort of sub-genre of fairy tales where the clever third son or whoever is aware of the tropes and manages to outwit the giant.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 22, 2012 6:02:38 pm PDT #21276 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Just Back from Avengers viewing #5: still the prettiest.
§ ita § - Jun 22, 2012 6:06:50 pm PDT #21277 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Do you have any examples I can look up, Hec?
sj - Jun 22, 2012 6:17:26 pm PDT #21278 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
ita, in Disney's Beauty and the Beast Belle is seen reading a fairy tale book.
DavidS - Jun 22, 2012 6:20:09 pm PDT #21279 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I'm mostly thinking of variants on the Youngest Son stories in fairy tales. Not all of them are clever, though that's how I think of these stories.
Let me see if any of these apply, or I'm just thinking of Lang's version or more modern revisions.
DavidS - Jun 22, 2012 6:24:13 pm PDT #21280 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Looking at the examples listed, it's often the magical helper (like, the Frog Princess, or the Grateful Beasts) which are genre savvy and cleverly thwart the impossible magical tasks.