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§ ita § - Jun 08, 2012 11:01:28 am PDT #21034 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It was filmed in 3D, so that's my target viewing experience. I think I might only have seen 1 movie not converted in post.


Sean K - Jun 08, 2012 11:06:00 am PDT #21035 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

We saw it in 2D, as we were concerned that it would be too dark, but after seeing, I may reconsider and see it in 3D.

In a number of significant ways, Prometheus is almost a straight up remake of Alien, redone as a more complex, sci fi story, with modern special effects, that just happens to also actually be a prequel.


§ ita § - Jun 08, 2012 11:08:08 am PDT #21036 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is it a prequel in that plot points or characters carry over, or is it a movie in a shared universe that takes place before some others?


Sean K - Jun 08, 2012 11:10:34 am PDT #21037 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Primarily the latter, but there is at least one event that significantly and specifically ties it to Alien.


Sean K - Jun 08, 2012 11:12:45 am PDT #21038 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

And things like the Weyland corporation, and the "Engineers", that are major setting reference points.


§ ita § - Jun 08, 2012 11:22:54 am PDT #21039 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I got into an argument (second most popular post opening line of mine...¹) with a guy who wanted the studio to call it a prequel, and thought they were wussing out. I tried to explain that their explanation had been that if you come to the movie to see stories either about wee Ripley or lots of facehuggers, they're going to be disappointed.

So the publicity was never claiming it wasn't the same universe with some of the same institutions, but some people (including me) have expectations from the term prequel, so it can't hurt to be explicit.

I mean, I don't think that Iron Man is a prequel to Thor, although the events in one happen in the same universe and earlier on. However, this guy did.

¹: First most popular: "Hey, click on this..."


Sean K - Jun 08, 2012 11:28:33 am PDT #21040 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Yeah, it's definitely more of a shared universe thing, and was marketed just fine. Those who need or care to know that it's "officially" an Alien prequel already do. Those who don't gain no benefit from such knowledge. There's nothing about it that would have been improved if they had put "PREQUEL TO ALIEN" on all the posters and trailers.


Sean K - Jun 08, 2012 11:28:52 am PDT #21041 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

¹: First most popular: "Hey, click on this..."

Hee!


§ ita § - Jun 08, 2012 12:20:24 pm PDT #21042 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

AND YOU STILL FALL FOR IT....MWAHHAHAH

Pixar's 22 rules of storytelling.

In terms of firsts, Brave has a few for Pixar, right?

  • First set in the UK
  • First 'fairy tale'
  • First female lead

Are those right?


Tom Scola - Jun 08, 2012 12:30:19 pm PDT #21043 of 30000
hwæt

I think Cars 2 may have had some scenes in the UK, but I’m not going to bother to find out for sure.