I'm thinking about buying something very expensive. Maybe an antelope.

Anya ,'Get It Done'


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Sean K - Jun 08, 2012 11:12:45 am PDT #21038 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

And things like the Weyland corporation, and the "Engineers", that are major setting reference points.


§ ita § - Jun 08, 2012 11:22:54 am PDT #21039 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I got into an argument (second most popular post opening line of mine...¹) with a guy who wanted the studio to call it a prequel, and thought they were wussing out. I tried to explain that their explanation had been that if you come to the movie to see stories either about wee Ripley or lots of facehuggers, they're going to be disappointed.

So the publicity was never claiming it wasn't the same universe with some of the same institutions, but some people (including me) have expectations from the term prequel, so it can't hurt to be explicit.

I mean, I don't think that Iron Man is a prequel to Thor, although the events in one happen in the same universe and earlier on. However, this guy did.

¹: First most popular: "Hey, click on this..."


Sean K - Jun 08, 2012 11:28:33 am PDT #21040 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Yeah, it's definitely more of a shared universe thing, and was marketed just fine. Those who need or care to know that it's "officially" an Alien prequel already do. Those who don't gain no benefit from such knowledge. There's nothing about it that would have been improved if they had put "PREQUEL TO ALIEN" on all the posters and trailers.


Sean K - Jun 08, 2012 11:28:52 am PDT #21041 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

¹: First most popular: "Hey, click on this..."

Hee!


§ ita § - Jun 08, 2012 12:20:24 pm PDT #21042 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

AND YOU STILL FALL FOR IT....MWAHHAHAH

Pixar's 22 rules of storytelling.

In terms of firsts, Brave has a few for Pixar, right?

  • First set in the UK
  • First 'fairy tale'
  • First female lead

Are those right?


Tom Scola - Jun 08, 2012 12:30:19 pm PDT #21043 of 30000
hwæt

I think Cars 2 may have had some scenes in the UK, but I’m not going to bother to find out for sure.


Sean K - Jun 08, 2012 12:36:33 pm PDT #21044 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I was going to say the same thing (I haven't seen it, so can't say either), but I don't know if that quite counts as "set in".


§ ita § - Jun 08, 2012 12:43:06 pm PDT #21045 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I found myself reacting adversely to (of all things) Merida's weaponry. I guess I felt like they had to make her cool enough for boys by making her do stereotypically masculine things. If she liked embroidery, she wouldn't carry a movie.

Kind of like how Snow White needed to swing a sword.

But then I just realise I'm looking for all this equity in the stories on the big screen, and there aren't enough stories to cover everything I want to see, even if there were audiences.

I mean, it's cool for girls to see that it's fine if they can do "boy" things better than boys. Maybe in the next movie they'll tell them it's fine if the want to do "girl" things. And in the movie after that, boys will get to do "girl" things as well. This is scheduled for shortly after hell freezing over.

Yes, I will never be happy. I totally get that.


Consuela - Jun 08, 2012 12:44:28 pm PDT #21046 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

And in the movie after that, boys will get to do "girl" things as well. This is scheduled for shortly after hell freezing over.

Yeah. Baby steps, baby steps. I hope!


Amy - Jun 08, 2012 12:51:19 pm PDT #21047 of 30000
Because books.

Possible feature film version of Stephen King's It.

Naturally, one of the first comments is someone asking if the kids' group sex scene will be included this time.