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Fiona - Jun 06, 2012 10:36:13 am PDT #20996 of 30000
chrismg - Jun 06, 2012 10:58:59 am PDT #20997 of 30000
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade
this Son of Coul shirt.
Sigh. Really, boys(1)? I get that it's an Army of Darkness riff, but when you reduce Natasha in a way the movie explicitly refused to do......yeah.
(1) by which I mean the shirt designers, not P-C or anyone else here.
§ ita § - Jun 06, 2012 11:00:23 am PDT #20998 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The movie explicitly what? I think you're giving it a lot of credit, or taking a lot from the shirt--I'm not sure which.
chrismg - Jun 06, 2012 12:15:29 pm PDT #20999 of 30000
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade
Explicitly refused to reduce her to an attractive piece of meat, by deliberately undercutting the people who tried to do that(Loki and the mafioski, I mean).
And what I'm taking from the shirt is that Natasha is hanging off a male character, in a way she never did in the movie.
tiggy - Jun 06, 2012 12:33:03 pm PDT #21000 of 30000
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I had the same gut reaction, chris.
§ ita § - Jun 06, 2012 12:33:47 pm PDT #21001 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
You're talking about the Natasha in the pushup bra with the zipper partway down? And her butt pushed out in a very non-gun-stance way? Because you got a different Natasha from the one in my copy.
chrismg - Jun 06, 2012 1:20:23 pm PDT #21002 of 30000
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade
I'm talking about the Natasha who was portrayed as a competent and essential team member. If you saw her presented only as an attractive shape in space, you definitely saw a different movie than I did.
It may not be fair to compare a single picture to a complete movie, but the image on the shirt doesn't exist in a vacuum.
§ ita § - Jun 06, 2012 1:43:12 pm PDT #21003 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
She was definitely more sexualised than the men, though. That zipper was there *all* the time.
If that had been Maria, my reaction would have been totally "WTF even???" But it wasn't. It was the same piece of cheesecake Joss decided to have and eat too.
Aside from all the joke angle. I just think if it had been any of the guys it would have been ten times as funny, and if it had been the woman who had never been sexualised in the movie it would have been ten times as flat.
Connie Neil - Jun 06, 2012 1:44:13 pm PDT #21004 of 30000
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Nick Fury clinging to his leg would be funny.
Consuela - Jun 06, 2012 1:54:28 pm PDT #21005 of 30000
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You're talking about the Natasha in the pushup bra with the zipper partway down?
I gotta say, that was the one thing about Natasha in the movie that really cheesed me off. She's got Kevlar body-armor in that jumpsuit (I assume), and shrapnel flying everywhere, and she can't be bothered to pull up her zipper? Bah, I say.