Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

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Consuela - Jun 01, 2012 6:58:37 am PDT #20898 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

But unless I've blanked, Treadstone isn't sending out a horde of highly trained spies after their targets.

Oh, they do, though. In the first movie Matt Damon takes out... damn. British actor of great hotness. Memfault. (I blame the shot of scotch my friend P gave me last night, which was a 17-year Pulteney, so excellent.)


Sean K - Jun 01, 2012 7:00:55 am PDT #20899 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Clive Owen.


Consuela - Jun 01, 2012 7:01:43 am PDT #20900 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Thanks, Sean. I knew there was a C in there somewhere...


§ ita § - Jun 01, 2012 7:07:43 am PDT #20901 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He never seems to be reasonably matched, though. I am remembering that Clive said he was Treadstone-formed--did the others get the same treatment?

Its weird--I guess I'm looking for more chance in his successes, which isn't normally what I'd be looking for. Just that "we lost control of the best example of this study" thing it a bit tired for me. If the new version is "oops, we lost our even better best guy. Again." then I think they should start implanting remote controlled explosive devices *really* deep inside their bodies.

But, since I manage to forget Clive was a brainwashed spy too, I'm probably reacting to selective memories.


Amy - Jun 01, 2012 7:16:33 am PDT #20902 of 30000
Because books.

Everyone who went after him was Treadstone -- Clive Owen, Karl Urban, the guy he fought in the kitchen in one scene, even the guy who found him in the Paris apartment.


Dana - Jun 01, 2012 7:16:36 am PDT #20903 of 30000
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

Jeremy Renner! Don't care about the plot.


Amy - Jun 01, 2012 7:17:29 am PDT #20904 of 30000
Because books.

Also, what Dana said. With additional Rachel Weisz!


Vonnie K - Jun 01, 2012 7:17:30 am PDT #20905 of 30000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

In the first movie Matt Damon takes out... damn. British actor of great hotness. Memfault.

Unmmmffff. Oh, man, Clive Owen was ridic off-the-chart hot in that movie in what amounted to about 10 minutes of screen time. It's the air of silent, quiet competence (well, not competent enough for Bourne, I guess, but that's what happens when you go against the title character in an action movie). And... I think at some point, he had these black-rimmed glasses on, which made him even hotter. Wasn't his code name "Professor"? I remember thinking "uh, I'd like a whole prequel dedicated to this character, please."


bon bon - Jun 01, 2012 7:17:48 am PDT #20906 of 30000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I don't think the movie's so poorly done as to make Bourne into a superspy that's the best ever -- in the second movie, his counterpart kills Franka Potente; in the third he would have been killed if he hadn't used his gained wisdom (the same words used by Clive Owen in the first) to convince the other guy not to shoot.

Also it's interesting that this movie appears to take place at the same time as Bournes 2&3. So they're not saying "here we go again!" They're saying "this program is simultaneously spitting out hard-to-kill renegades." It's a subtle difference, but I think they're reacting to your issue, ita.


Consuela - Jun 01, 2012 7:23:57 am PDT #20907 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Also it's interesting that this movie appears to take place at the same time as Bournes 2&3.

Oh, interesting.

Shall I be required to rewatch the first three? Oh, the burden.