Willow: Yes. Hi. You must be Angel's handsome, yet androgynous, son. Connor: It's Connor. Willow: And the sneer's genetic. Who knew?

'A Hole in the World'


Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

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Steph L. - May 28, 2012 7:19:58 am PDT #20751 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I wonder if there are fans of the paper Captain America who are dissatisfied with what they saw onscreen. I find him kinda boring in the comics, and compelling on the big screen. Are whatever differences explain that bothersome to people who were his fans pre-2011?

At the Cincy Comic Expo in 2011, there was a Cap panel with 2 current Cap artists (a husband and wife, actually; he's the artist and she's the colorist), and Allen Bellman, who was one of the first Cap artists back in the 1940s. The panel was post-Captain America movie. I asked the panel how they felt about Bucky being aged up for the movie, and they said (basically) that even though "their" Bucky is a kid, they thought the movie did it pretty well. And overall, they liked the way the movie portrayed Cap. I'd love to know what they think about him in Avengers.

And it was really, *really* sweet to hear Allen Bellman talk about how, in his wildest dreams, he never thought in 1940-whatever, when he was drawing Cap comics, that almost 70 years later he'd be on the red carpet for the premiere of the Cap movie. Very, very cool. I love hearing people talk about doing work that they love, and this panel clearly did.


§ ita § - May 28, 2012 7:44:00 am PDT #20752 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ha! This is kind of funny.

BTW, although it was a great joke, I'm kind of surprised that Tony didn't know what it was. I mean, it's not caviar or anything, but he's a worldly jetsetter, so I figure if I've heard of it (and loved it), he'd know what it was at least.

I've read Ultimates Cap more than anything else, and he was reasonably interesting there. And that's who his movie self is supposed to be modelled after more than 616. Maybe that's it.

Although I did follow the Civil War plot. I wonder if that's something they'd introduce into the movies--maybe that ground was already trod by the somewhat competing X-Men? I also do wonder if Demon In A Bottle will be used (the foundations have been laid pretty decently), or that's too much of a bummer for the snappy funny movie Iron Man.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 28, 2012 7:57:48 am PDT #20753 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

My first experience of the Maria Hill character in comics was of her ordering a bunch of S.H.I.E.L.D. agents to capture/gun down Captain America for voicing his objections to the Registration Act before it was passed into law. Subsequent efforts to make her a sympathetic character have been a lost cause IMHO.

Some of the look and enhanced abilities of Movie Cap are taken from Ultimates, but his likeable personality and commitment to protecting the weak are pure 616. The Ultimates version is closer to USAgent in terms of personality and morals.


tommyrot - May 28, 2012 8:05:44 am PDT #20754 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

After Battleship, What Next?


Atropa - May 28, 2012 9:19:50 am PDT #20755 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

My Avengers feels go Coulson, Cap, Nick, Tony, Thor, Hulk, Natasha

Hey, I share Avengers feels with ita ! ! This makes me strangely happy.


§ ita § - May 28, 2012 11:36:35 am PDT #20756 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

::high fives the exceedingly right-thinking Jilli::

Question about shawarma--exotic food, or someone as cosmopolitan as Tony has heard of it? Street food and not the nosh of billionaires? What's the what?

eta: I honestly believe my sister watches these movies just to be able to talk to me about stuff that wets my panties, and she's not into it...but she did have the Coulson feels. I told her I'd drawn Colin as Hawkeye, and she asked me who Hawkeye was. So I know the front and the back of her list looks like mine.


Consuela - May 28, 2012 11:36:55 am PDT #20757 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Street food: Tony must have heard of it.


§ ita § - May 28, 2012 11:39:14 am PDT #20758 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I agree that if I worked it out by uni, Tony would have heard of it. And I'd assume Joss doesn't actually think it's exotic for him, so what for that line?


§ ita § - May 28, 2012 11:42:00 am PDT #20759 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

...of course, I can imagine Pepper chastising him and saying "Remember the secret Palestinian meetings? After you ducked them and got trashed? The food you chowed down on after that...that's shawarma."

OMG, he was so clearly wearing running shoes with lifts in those scenes.


Consuela - May 28, 2012 11:42:22 am PDT #20760 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Got me. Unless Tony's lying, which I wouldn't find unlikely. He's just running off at the mouth to be entertaining.