Oh yeah, no more white font. WOO HULK OUT WITH REGULAR FONT!

Doesn't ruin the movie for me, but after 2 viewings, I still don't quite get it.

After 3 viewings, I don't quite get it either. The best I can do to work it out is, he'd been holding it together just fine, but he was really on edge ever since Nat lied to him in Calcutta; he was still afraid Fury was going to lock him up, still worried what would happen if he Hulked out on the aircraft carrier, as he mentioned to Cap; basically not just pissed off but *scared*, and when the unexpected attack hit and he got hurt in the fall through the deck, it was too much for him. He might not have gone after Nat specifically if she hadn't been right there. He might have got hold of it again, even, but she had to try and talk to him; she meant to be calming him down, but his gut reaction was that she was lying again and that also pissed him off. Ergo, Hulk.

Or, yeah, what Hec said. Glowstick of Angry Doom.

Huh. I guess we don't need to white font any more. SPOILER ALERT, PEOPLES.

Rats. I'm outta here until next weekend.

I didn't see the Hulk movie, was he able to control himself at all in that one? Did he try?

I just watched it. He was able to control himself when his True Love was in danger or wailing his name. FTR, I thought it was awful, and except for the Tony Stark cameo at the very end, I can't really see it as a pre-Avengers movie. It didn't add anything. Looks to me like Joss ignored it, and rightfully so.

Steph the only thing I think about Bruce is some how getting knocked in the head kinda undid his control, sort of the reverse of Loki's mind control. As for the controlled Hulk out, my take (based on what little I know of the Hulk in general and never having seen the Hulk movie) is that: 1) Bruce has awareness while he's Hulked out, but, also, the Hulk has awareness when he's not 2) Bruce doesn't trust "the other guy" so even while he's Hulked out Bruce is trying to exert control over the Hulk. Hulk doesn't like the lack of trust or Bruce's attempts at trying to control him. So Hulk is fighting a battle with Bruce, which makes them both angry and things get out of control

Also when Tony was talking about the "other guy" and his spin on it, both Bruce and Hulk were listening

So on the Helipad thing Bruce gets knocked about/stunned when he loses some mental control and Hulk pushes forward to take over and he's mad because 1) there's a trap to try and kill him aboard, 2) no one trusts him and 3) he thinks Shield has betrayed him.(well maybe not betrayed but he doesn't trust Shield agents) so there's this major fight.

but while this is going on Hulk is mad at all the betrayal and distrust, plus he's processing stuff Tony said. and Bruce is trying to exert some control over Hulk and de-Hulk but also process everything that's happened. then in the long drop down to the ground maybe there was some communication between Hulk and Bruce. And once Bruce heard the Hulk aimed the landing it's enough of a catalyst to trust The Other Guy and lessen some of the control he's trying to have over Hulk. I mean, he doesn't want Hulk out all the time, but Bruce is trusting Hulk can make a choice not to hurt certain people and to understand the situation. Both Hulk and Bruce learned some stuff in dealing with Loki and Tony. So in the final battle Bruce is letting some of his control go - he tells the secret (I'm always angry) but he's also releasing the Hulk to do the superhero work. Bruce is doing it out of trust He's going to trust the other guy and not fight him after The Other Guy comes out.

Hulk responds well to this and to being accepted (at least by Tony, in theory) so Hulk is more than willing to be a team player. To an extent.

My ambien started kicking in about half way trhough that hopefully it still makes sense.

Ruffalo signed for 6 Marvel movies, which makes me very happy (not necessarily all Hulk or Avengers; some might be small appearances like Nick Fury in Iron Man 2, but even so, I'm guessing there will be at least one Ruffalo Hulk movie, based on how much viewers have just loved him in Avengers).

I'm still pulling for a Tony Stark and Bruce Banner: Science Bros! movie.

And I believe I read elseweb that there will be a Black Widow movie, which makes me incredibly happy if it's true.

My ambien started kicking in about half way trhough that hopefully it still makes sense.

It totally does, and I really like your description of the Hulk AND Bruce listening to Tony. And also, when naked!Bruce landed in Harry Dean Stanton's warehouse of rubble and asked, "Was anyone hurt?" and HDS told him no, that he must have aimed right (or whatever), I wondered if that was extreme shorthand for the viewers to see Bruce willing to trust the Other Guy.

I was hoping the gaps you mentioned would generate some fanfic but I don't think it has. Also just ssome cool stuff with Banner processig the changes post Avengers events. but so far I'll I've found is some hot Tony/Bruce stories

And I believe I read elseweb that there will be a Black Widow movie, which makes me incredibly happy if it's true.

HULK SQUEE.

I saw it was supposed to be extreme short hand for trust. Either the trust started right there or maybe started earlier but it's a change in how Bruce thinks of the Hulk.