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Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

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juliana - May 14, 2012 10:01:47 am PDT #20279 of 30000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

I heart Black Widow sooo much.

Me too! And the vidder intends to remaster that BW vid after the dvd comes out! Yay!

Awesome. And I love that song, too. scampers off to buy the Dessa single


§ ita § - May 14, 2012 10:16:01 am PDT #20280 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wish they'd cast someone as Black Widow with better physicality, and also tightened up the continuity with the stuntwork. Why is ScarJo's the only stuntperson I explicitly noticed? Is the market that tight for female talent that it's harder to match her than *all* of the guys?

Part of me grumbles and thinks it's because BW's mettle is undervalued, but whatever. I shouldn't have noticed that. Again.


tommyrot - May 14, 2012 10:26:58 am PDT #20281 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

So apparently, Loki's use of the term "mewling quim" has offended some people. And also, "He's adopted" offended some people as well.

Then there is at least one person who thinks Captain America ‘tips’ Nick Fury because he’s black.

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Spoilery. (Also, URL is spoilery for a phrase used in the film.)


§ ita § - May 14, 2012 10:32:41 am PDT #20282 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, mewling quim is totally pornographic, if you know what it means, and Joss is being publicly pleased with slipping it past the censors.

eta: Oh! They're pissed that it's a sexist insult? Oh, bad guys never do that...


juliana - May 14, 2012 10:34:19 am PDT #20283 of 30000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

The first thing is supposed to be offensive - Loki Liesmith is doing battle in his own way. The second thing, okay, I can see people being sensitive to it, but really?? The third, well, people are just dumb.


Jessica - May 14, 2012 10:36:02 am PDT #20284 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Um:

If you’re worried your kid might run around saying it, just tell them it’s very mean and that it’s a bad word. Chances are they won’t say it.

Does this person actually know any children?

And seriously "Joss can't be sexist because Buffy" is a stupid argument.

(I have no dog in this fight since I haven't seen the movie yet, but...oy. Joss is not perfect. Sometimes he writes great smart feminist things. And sometimes he fucks them up.)


Matt the Bruins fan - May 14, 2012 10:40:23 am PDT #20285 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I laughed at "He's adopted," and I am as well. Note that the movie also had Thor dismiss Loki's birth parentage and argue that they'd been raised together, actually taking a more progressive stance on the issue than the comics usually do.


Consuela - May 14, 2012 10:42:45 am PDT #20286 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I think, for myself, that the issue isn't the use of the phrase by Loki, but that Joss is so very pleased about sliding it past the censors. I mean: do we really need another gendered slur to bandy about?

But it's not enough to get upset about, for me.

The business with the "tip" is SO STUPID. That wasn't exactly a subtle piece of business/


Atropa - May 14, 2012 10:49:04 am PDT #20287 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I think, for myself, that the issue isn't the use of the phrase by Loki, but that Joss is so very pleased about sliding it past the censors. I mean: do we really need another gendered slur to bandy about?

Yep, right there with you. It's like, very clever, Joss, but did you have to?

Also, I was thrown by it for a minute because it's so very Antique British; what's this Norse god doing throwing that phrase around?


Polter-Cow - May 14, 2012 10:50:27 am PDT #20288 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I think the thing about "He's adopted" is that it's actually "He's adopted?" Thor isn't changing his stance completely. He's offering some potential distance to excuse how his brother's actions reflect upon him. As Matt noted, Thor is very clearly of the "We were raised together, so we are brothers, the end" mindset, so "He's adopted?" just read as a joke.