I'll just jump in my time machine, go back to the twelfth century, and ask the vampires to postpone their ancient prophesy for a few days while you take in dinner and a show.

Giles ,'Selfless'


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Amy - Apr 06, 2012 12:44:10 pm PDT #19307 of 30000
Because books.

Sucker Punch was vile. I haven't been that angry at a movie in a long time.

I just got back from The Hunger Games, though, so now I need to go back and read all the juicy spoilerfont.


Polter-Cow - Apr 06, 2012 6:14:37 pm PDT #19308 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Well, this isn't good. Unless it is.

Exclusive: Gary Ross Leaves 'The Hunger Games' Franchise, Won't Direct 'Catching Fire' Sequel.

I hope they find a good replacement. Damn.


§ ita § - Apr 06, 2012 6:41:35 pm PDT #19309 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, that's the sort of thing that could go in any direction. It's a big enough success that I hope they could attract and afford a good talent, and the producers seem to have a sensible approach to it all, so I hope that continues.


DavidS - Apr 06, 2012 7:23:00 pm PDT #19310 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Less shakey-cam one hopes.


Polter-Cow - Apr 07, 2012 3:30:47 pm PDT #19311 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Gary Ross Has Not Withdrawn From ‘Hunger Games 2′.

Or not. ALL SHAKY-CAM ALL THE TIME.

(Seriously, I had no issues with it.)


Amy - Apr 07, 2012 3:36:48 pm PDT #19312 of 30000
Because books.

The shaky cam did bother me, although I sort of understood what he was going for with it (I think). What also bothered me -- and he's not the only director to do it -- is the quick pans that make the shot blurry until they stop. There was one when they were inside the Games control room, and it made me a little nauseated.


Rayne - Apr 07, 2012 4:03:12 pm PDT #19313 of 30000
"Oh no! Has falling sky liquid once again caused you the sadness?" -Starfire

I had two big issues with Hunger Games. One was the shaky cam and quick pans. The other was that it didn't stress the reality TV aspect of the games as much as I would have liked. I would have liked more shots of people watching (and possibly cheering on) the games.

In the book, Katniss was constantly aware of the cameras, but since we can't get into her head in the movies, showing people watching and enjoying the games would have helped show that aspect of the books.


Amy - Apr 07, 2012 4:09:32 pm PDT #19314 of 30000
Because books.

See, there was actually more of the reaction and crowd shots than I expected. That part of it was really made real to me.

I loved it, but I do feel like I need to reread, because either I'm forgetting some of the development of Katniss and Peeta's relationship, or I think they didn't make it quite clear enough for someone who didn't read the book (or, uh, forgot stuff).

For instance, in the book did they never discuss why Peeta aligned with the Careers in the beginning? Either way, I thought it wasn't clear enough that Katniss didn't just turn on a dime and fall for him. In the book, it seemed really clear to me that the longer she knew him, the more she liked him, but she was never "in love" the way he claimed to be, and that she was definitely playing a lot of it for the cameras. Given the tight POV of the book, it was obviously easier to show it there, but here I wasn't sure what viewers were supposed to believe about their relationship at the end of the movie.


megan walker - Apr 07, 2012 4:26:02 pm PDT #19315 of 30000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I thought there was too much emphasis on the reality TV aspect in the sense they didn't make it clear that most of the districts have to be forced to watch. I did like them filling out the sponsor story a bit since in the book you don't learn about how much Haymitch and Peeta's strategy is developed or learn about why he aligns with the Careers.

And I thought the relationships in the movie were pretty unclear. I am almost finished listening to the audiobook now and Katniss says quite clearly that she does not think of Gale romantically (now, she might be lying to herself of course, but she is quite emphatic and he pretty much disappears after the opening). One thing that struck me listening is that the book is divided into equal thirds, with the two divisions revolving around "Peeta" revelations: the first section ends on his interview and the second begins with her reaction to the "she came with me" bombshell; the second ends with the two tributes announcement and her shouting his name, with the third part beginning with her guessing what strategies Peeta had been using to help her.

Also surprising on re-read? How little violence there is. Almost no deaths are described in any detail. I know Cato's is, but nothing else. The worst part so far has been the description of Peeta's wound.


bon bon - Apr 07, 2012 4:28:09 pm PDT #19316 of 30000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

It really is made obvious to non-readers that Katniss only shows affection for Peeta after it's clear it will help her. A real romance doesn't require a post-it instructing one to kiss the other. Additionally, there are multiple incidents throughout demonstrating that she doesn't really trust him like she presumably trusts Gale.