We can come by between classes. Usually I use that time to copy over my class notes with a system of different colored pens. But it's been pointed out to me that that's, you know...insane.

Willow ,'Showtime'


Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

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Amy - Apr 01, 2012 5:54:07 pm PDT #19190 of 30000
Because books.

None of them were friends except Annie and Lillian, and Lillian and Helen. Megan was an obligation, as SiL, and Becca and the other one ... were not close friends with Lillian. I don't think Annie knew any of them before Lillian got engaged.

I probably identified with Annie's depression more than I should have, but I was glad to see that when she made the I'm sorry carrot cake for the cop, she wasn't instantly forgiven. That usually happens nearly magically in the movies.

Not sure on the lesbian hookup, outside of the kiss on the plane.


DavidS - Apr 01, 2012 5:56:22 pm PDT #19191 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I just couldn't work out any reason other than habit those people were friends with each other.

I think the implication (and symbolism) of Annie's failed bakery is that she's at a particularly low point. That she failed for reasons other than her talent and ambition and work ethic. That her boyfriend dicked her over and she's somewhat exposed and vulnerable and at-her-worst during the course of the movie.

Most of the movie Lillian is surprised at Annie's behavior, indicating it's anomalous.


§ ita § - Apr 01, 2012 6:05:31 pm PDT #19192 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

and Becca and the other one ... were not close friends with Lillian

What did I miss here? Where did they come from? I'm confused now.

Of course I understand that Annie hadn't spent her whole life acting like she did during the movie, but it wasn't until the scene in Lillian's apartment that I felt any convincing indication of a history between them of a tight bond. I absolutely never got/bought the Helen stuff, except from her point of view. That made sense.

I think if I'd found more of it funny, I might have been more forgiving, because I was expecting a comedy. But I'm not particularly patient with protagonists who mess with other people's lives like that--I understand that your own might be falling apart around you, but the collateral damage thing makes me twitchy, and I disconnect from the protagonist.


Amy - Apr 01, 2012 6:09:56 pm PDT #19193 of 30000
Because books.

I got the connection between Annie and Lillian in the scene at the beginning, with the exercise class and the breakfast, but I also got that they'd not been seeing each other too often recently.

I thought Becca and the angry mom were sort of obligatory bridesmaids. Wasn't Becca a cousin or something? And I think I missed who the angry mom was to Lillian, but I didn't get the impression they were all that close.


§ ita § - Apr 01, 2012 6:14:25 pm PDT #19194 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It just didn't sink in for me. Everyone felt at similar remove to me, although lip service was paid to Annie being closer.

But I was also full of not liking them all, so that surely coloured my reaction.


Consuela - Apr 01, 2012 6:29:04 pm PDT #19195 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Extended sneak peek at Snow White and the Huntsman: [link]

I haven't decided what I think of it, but that trailer gives you a lot of the plot.


Hil R. - Apr 01, 2012 6:31:39 pm PDT #19196 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I just watched some of the original 1997 trailers for Titanic, and compared them to the new ones. I started this because I saw one of the new commercials and I thought it seemed like there was a lot more disaster and water rushing at the camera shots than I'd remembered from the old commercials. But after looking at them, I realized something else. The 1997 commercials made is clear that the reason that Jack and Rose couldn't be together was that Jack was poor and Rose was rich, and also, included several shots from the movie that made the point that the rich people had a chance at surviving the shipwreck, while the poor people didn't. The new commercials ignore this entirely. Practically every shot used is rich people. In at least one of the trailers, EVERY post-crash shot where you can see individual people shows rich people. The original commercials made a whole lot of use of the scene where Jack's friend, with a bunch of other people behind the locked gate, shouts something like, "There are women and children down here! For heaven's sake, give us a chance!" which I don't see anywhere in any of the new ones. Same thing with the scene where Rose shouts at her mother, "The ship is sinking, and there aren't enough lifeboats! Half the people on this ship are going to die!" and her fiance sniffs, "Not the better half."


Hil R. - Apr 01, 2012 6:35:43 pm PDT #19197 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

1997: [link]

2012: [link]


Fiona - Apr 01, 2012 8:07:28 pm PDT #19198 of 30000

There was a Salon piece a few days ago about the differences in trailers over the past few years, including the Titanic trailers, though it is more from a film style perspective:

[link]


Polter-Cow - Apr 01, 2012 8:21:40 pm PDT #19199 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Also: the camera never leers at her, but the girl is a serious knockout. I spent a lot of time just gaping at her.

Ha, me too.