Also, way funnier than I expected.

Heh, I thought it was generally lacking humor. Where was the one "fuck"? I don't remember.

I agree about Sam Worthington. He was pretty awesome.

It's when... Okay, so Marcus & Williams escape, and John & co. go after them, and then things blow up for a while, and then the robotic snakes attack, and the helicopter crashes into the water. Then there's a PERFECT beat of silence for a second, and then John shouts, "FUCK!"

Hi-larious.

So I rewatched "The Balance of Terror." (My fave ST:TOS EP when I was a kid.) Stiles was the guy who suspected Spock of being a Romulan spy. He told Kirk there was a "Captain Stiles" killed in the Romulan war, as well as three other Stileses.

I did think that John Connor should have developed a phobia about helicopters.

For serious.

It was what a lot of people are saying, which makes me sad, because I am in lurve with the trailer, and really really wanted to lurve the movie as well.

Sam Worthington, however, lived up to my expectations. I want to feed Marcus Wright soup and wrap him in a blanket, and then make out with him. I went with a friend who is in lust with Bale, and at the end I turned to her and said "you bitch, your guy lived."

Moon Bloodgood was also fabulous, but I couldn't figure out the deal with her Daryl Hannah/Blade Runner makeup.

Some of the action was awesome, but too much was over-the-top ridiculous. Sam Worthington's physicality was a thing of beauty, though.

What really really pisses me off, is that trailer that I am in lurve with? gives away plot elements that don't come into play until, what, 45 minutes in? I kept waiting for the moment Marcus gets injured and discovered. "Okay, now he gets shot!" "Okay, now he gets injured in the fall!" "Okay, NOW he gets blasted!" Instead of sitting there going, "There's something hinky about this guy, I wonder if he's a terminator, nah, he's too good, he has a heartbeat." Okay, maybe that's not true, because of the forgettable opening sequence.

Did anyone else's copy show the title "Terminator Salvation" twice? Because, wtf? And, also, interesting to have McG's directing credit act as the teaser button. He wants to make sure everyone knows who to praise/blame, doesn't he?

Beau turned to me and said: "who is M-C-G?"

I whispered, "we will cover that in the car ride home, dear."

there were also some odd black spots for "episode breaks" a couple of times.

In slightly related news, my girlfriend's boyfriend, while discussing the history and chronology of the various Terminator installments, in reference to The Sarah Connor Chronicles, made the comment to her "not the one starring you". Because said girlfriend looks disturbingly like Summer Glau. I hadn't admitted this to her until now, but it felt like such a relief to get that off my chest. /natter

Highly disappointing was Linda Hamilton's voice cameo for the tape recordings. not only was her voice terribly old, but she rushed all of her lines. It seriously sounded like a rushed table reading and she didn't know that it was being recorded.

What really really pisses me off, is that trailer that I am in lurve with?

It was definitely weird to be waiting for the moment Marcus finds out he's a robot, but I couldn't quite tell whether WE were not supposed to know he was a cyborg. The opening scene pretty much implied that he was going to be a T-800 template—what else would happen if you donated your body to Cyberdyne?—but the first 45 minutes played as if he were a regular guy wondering what he was doing in the future.

Yeah, methinks there were some issues with the structure. Either/Or would have been great, but they instead went for BOTH. Either a 28 Days Later "dude wakes up and the world has changed and then Surprise!", or . . . something else.

That said, I wouldn't want to give up all the wonderful little moments of Marcus and Kyle and Star, or Marcus and Blaire.

Oh, I thought that was reasonably clever. And a nice way of avoiding the T2 problem, where we were supposed to think that we should be scared of Arnold for the first act, except there'd been months of publicity about how he was the good guy this time. So yeah, we know Marcus is Not Human, even though he doesn't. But we don't know why, or what he's meant to be doing, and he doesn't either. But I also thought that the opening credits kinda told us that the movie was from a Terminator's POV.

It definitely lost points in the last act. I don't think that Skynet should be all taunty like a James Bond villain. It's undignified.

There's also no reason Skynet should have any fucking idea who Kyle Reese is AT ALL. Unless Skynet's just sending Terminators back all the time and informing the current Skynet about everyone, in which case there's no way he should have lived this long.

I really really wish that this had been a movie about Marcus and Kyle, and Marcus v Skynet at the end. Take John Connor out of this movie and you've actually got a shot at an interesting story.