My god...he's gonna do the whole speech.

Buffy ,'Chosen'


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SuziQ - Nov 03, 2011 10:48:40 am PDT #16651 of 30000
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Amy, yesterday's Footloose excursion was my first time in a theater for quite a while. Maybe since the last HP movie.

Unfortunately I know when I'll be going next. I'm sure I've mentioned that my darling, smart daughter has a thing for the Twilight series. She thinks the last book is beyond rediculous but we are both completists, so I'm sure we will be seeing the next movie, probably at the midnight release. Please judge. I judge myself. I feel like I'm stuck watching a trainwreak waiting for it to just be OVER.


Burrell - Nov 03, 2011 11:07:41 am PDT #16652 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I got all confused about Steven McQueen being too young because I was like, "isn't he dead?"

So glad it wasn't just me.


§ ita § - Nov 03, 2011 11:42:08 am PDT #16653 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So Akira is being made, and it's set in Neo New York, and it's going to star Garrett Hedlund.

And I'm not mad at it.

I feel like I should be up in arms, but I'm not. You take a movie, you translate it into your culture, and you retell it. So, yeah, it turns out to have the racial demographics of your culture. Now, it probably won't have true American representation, but casting the lead as a white guy? I don't think that an American production has a responsibility to make a Japanese movie.

For reasons I can't properly articulate, this doesn't strike me as an Avatar: The Last Airbender situation, which wasn't translating shit, just whitening the characters in place.


§ ita § - Nov 05, 2011 12:12:00 pm PDT #16654 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

This is an interesting link of overpaid actors based on who gets the lowest box office return on their salary dollars. It's pretty much clearly divided into people I'm screamingly not surprised to see on there (Eddie Murphy (animation isn't counted) and Nic Cage, and Reese Witherspoon and Denzel Washington).

The list is some of the worst pageview whoring I've seen in a while, but the article is worth reading and gives away the top four or five positions, fwiw.


Jesse - Nov 05, 2011 12:15:58 pm PDT #16655 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

For reasons I can't properly articulate, this doesn't strike me as an Avatar: The Last Airbender situation, which wasn't translating shit, just whitening the characters in place.

I think it's because of this:

You take a movie, you translate it into your culture, and you retell it.

If the movie was set in Japan, but starring white people, that would be a problem. Remaking a Japanese movie as an American movie may be a bad idea, but it doesn't seem like the same kind of whitewashing. Like you said, probably a different kind of whitewashing, but still.


Anne W. - Nov 05, 2011 12:48:45 pm PDT #16656 of 30000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Remaking a Japanese movie as an American movie may be a bad idea, but it doesn't seem like the same kind of whitewashing.

At the time they were made, I doubt it was brought up, but I do have to wonder if "A Fist Full of Dollars" and "The Magnificent Seven" were made today, if they would trigger the same kind of discussion that the Akira remake has.


sumi - Nov 05, 2011 12:49:56 pm PDT #16657 of 30000
Art Crawl!!!

Yeah, I'm glad, at least, that they're moving the setting since they're casting as they are.

That being said - I wonder what a Japanese movie of it would look like.


Jesse - Nov 05, 2011 1:03:02 pm PDT #16658 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

What about The Departed/Infernal Affairs? I think it's bacause even so many Americans think Akira is a masterpiece, no?


§ ita § - Nov 05, 2011 1:25:46 pm PDT #16659 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Didn't as many think Infernal Affairs is a masterpiece? Maybe it's because you're crossing media lines? So they want one medium to be true to the previous? Whereas it would be dumb for an American to make a Japanese adaptation of a Japanese movie.


Jesse - Nov 05, 2011 1:30:01 pm PDT #16660 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I actually have no idea, really.