You got all kinds of learnin' and you made me look the fool without tryin', and yet here I am with a gun to your head. That's 'cause I got people with me. People who trust each other, who do for each other, and ain't always lookin' for the advantage.

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Jesse - Nov 05, 2011 12:15:58 pm PDT #16655 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

For reasons I can't properly articulate, this doesn't strike me as an Avatar: The Last Airbender situation, which wasn't translating shit, just whitening the characters in place.

I think it's because of this:

You take a movie, you translate it into your culture, and you retell it.

If the movie was set in Japan, but starring white people, that would be a problem. Remaking a Japanese movie as an American movie may be a bad idea, but it doesn't seem like the same kind of whitewashing. Like you said, probably a different kind of whitewashing, but still.


Anne W. - Nov 05, 2011 12:48:45 pm PDT #16656 of 30000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Remaking a Japanese movie as an American movie may be a bad idea, but it doesn't seem like the same kind of whitewashing.

At the time they were made, I doubt it was brought up, but I do have to wonder if "A Fist Full of Dollars" and "The Magnificent Seven" were made today, if they would trigger the same kind of discussion that the Akira remake has.


sumi - Nov 05, 2011 12:49:56 pm PDT #16657 of 30000
Art Crawl!!!

Yeah, I'm glad, at least, that they're moving the setting since they're casting as they are.

That being said - I wonder what a Japanese movie of it would look like.


Jesse - Nov 05, 2011 1:03:02 pm PDT #16658 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

What about The Departed/Infernal Affairs? I think it's bacause even so many Americans think Akira is a masterpiece, no?


§ ita § - Nov 05, 2011 1:25:46 pm PDT #16659 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Didn't as many think Infernal Affairs is a masterpiece? Maybe it's because you're crossing media lines? So they want one medium to be true to the previous? Whereas it would be dumb for an American to make a Japanese adaptation of a Japanese movie.


Jesse - Nov 05, 2011 1:30:01 pm PDT #16660 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I actually have no idea, really.


§ ita § - Nov 05, 2011 1:33:13 pm PDT #16661 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh! Saw Harold and Kumar 3. Admittedly, I missed 2, and, duh, I just worked out which one is Daneel Ackles. I am the worst Supernatural fan EVER. It was so way beyond wrong, and really stupid, which was what I needed to see, and quite funny. The 3D is all pretty obvious--there's not a subtle thing about the movie, but that's not why you go see Harold or Kumar, is it?

Jordan Hinson is in this, and I am totally freaked out at the idea of Colin's TV daughter in a stoner comedy. Then again, if I knew the triplets that played...Ava? I'd be even more traumatised.


Dana - Nov 05, 2011 2:04:02 pm PDT #16662 of 30000
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

Infernal Affairs is totally a better movie.


Liese S. - Nov 05, 2011 2:38:15 pm PDT #16663 of 30000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

You take a movie, you translate it into your culture, and you retell it. So, yeah, it turns out to have the racial demographics of your culture.

What are the characters' names? What will their backstory be?


§ ita § - Nov 05, 2011 3:09:58 pm PDT #16664 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They haven't announced their names. But they will be from New York. That's all we know so far. Helena Bonham Carter has also been cast.