he never gave informed consent.
Not possible for a 13 year old anyway.
Mal: Does.. um.. does this seem kind of tight? Kaylee: Shows off your backside.
'Shindig'
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§ ita § - Aug 02, 2011 11:19:21 am PDT #15893 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Laga - Aug 02, 2011 11:20:39 am PDT #15894 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
true, true.
Typo Boy - Aug 02, 2011 11:21:58 am PDT #15895 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
But I remember being 13. Totally would not have turned down sex with a girl my age or with a grown women. Does not change the ick factor, but I'm pretty sure I remember how much I wanted sex at that age.
[and just to make it clear, no I could not have given consent and if an adult had taken advantage it would have been rape. But I would have said yes.]
Jesse - Aug 02, 2011 11:23:48 am PDT #15896 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Consent doesn't count when you're underage. Statutory rape isn't about wanting it or not.
Laga - Aug 02, 2011 11:26:10 am PDT #15897 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
If a woman asked to spend the night would you have known exactly what she meant?
(not saying that makes it OK, saying Hanks played it too young)
Steph L. - Aug 02, 2011 11:38:31 am PDT #15898 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
saying Hanks played it too young
Maybe the script was written so that the response wasn't what a 13-year-old boy would have made, but Hanks had to play the script he was given.
t edit And I think the script makes it clear that it's a genuine misunderstanding (as well as an opportunity for the screenwriter to make a yuk-yuk-yuk double entendre, durr hurr.)
t edit again Laga, were you talking about the "Do you mean sleep over?" scene? Or the later scene with the actual sexy sex? Because I'm referring to the "Do you mean sleep over?" scene.
tommyrot - Aug 02, 2011 1:06:57 pm PDT #15899 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
I had no interest in sex whatsoever until I was 15.
smonster - Aug 02, 2011 1:20:23 pm PDT #15900 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.
In response to Big, is it a prevailing opinion that a thirteen year old (chronologically and mentally) having sex with an adult woman is icky?
When I first saw Big, I don't think it pinged me at all, and I was around the age Josh would have been. I did not know what sex really was, though, and I think that part went mostly over my head. From my adult perspective, I think that 1) yes it was statutory rape, even if she was not a knowing perpetrator and 2) yes, it's a little odd and creepy. But I don't think it's out of character for a 13 yo boy who's trying desperately to seem like an adult to be interested in sex and also just go with the flow and not really know what's going on. If I'd been the woman I would have been seriously wigged out and guilt-ridden after finding out.
Laga - Aug 02, 2011 3:29:27 pm PDT #15901 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
clearly I remember the movie wrong. I thought the "do you mean sleep over?" scene ended in sex.
I too would have wigged the hell out when I found out the truth.
erikaj - Aug 02, 2011 4:44:00 pm PDT #15902 of 30000
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-
At the time I didn't think of it, but I was much less inclined to take stuff apart than I would be today.