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DavidS - Jul 29, 2011 6:09:10 pm PDT #15793 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Today's Subject: Movies That Got A Bad Rap

Inspired by P-Cow's endorsement of Green Hornet, Fay's FB plumping for Sucker Punch and my discovery of the old Disney animated movie Atlantis (fully of steampunky goodness! and an interesting and diverse cast), I am curious which movies you've discovered which were much better than their reputation or critical assessment or box-office suggested.


Laga - Jul 29, 2011 7:48:21 pm PDT #15794 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Treasure Planet


DavidS - Jul 29, 2011 9:29:08 pm PDT #15795 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Treasure Planet

Indeed, it's a fine double feature with Atlantis. I'm sure there's a lot of crossover among the creators.

Plus, Emma Thompson as a swashbuckling space captain.


Polter-Cow - Jul 29, 2011 9:33:29 pm PDT #15796 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I'm sure there's a lot of crossover among the creators.

Nope. Besides the composer and casting directors, not so much.

I liked both those movies, if I recall. A couple of my friends are big fans of Atlantis. Looks like Joss was involved somewhere in there, too.


DavidS - Jul 29, 2011 9:41:03 pm PDT #15797 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Nope. Besides the composer and casting directors, not so much.

Well, they're pretty similar in vibe and look.

Having watched all these Disney movies multiple times I keep seeing links which may or may not really exist.

Tarzan sometimes looks like a cross between Beauty and the Beast and Emperor's New Groove. Plus the skateboard moves they used in Tarzan and Treasure Planet. The retrofuturistic design of Atlantis and Treasure Planet. Mulan and Pocahontas both seem paired as anti-Princess movies (both somewhat humorless).


Frankenbuddha - Jul 30, 2011 3:27:02 am PDT #15798 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I am curious which movies you've discovered which were much better than their reputation or critical assessment or box-office suggested.

I've mentioned these two before, but Hudson Hawk and Long Kiss Goodnight.


JZ - Jul 30, 2011 5:15:14 am PDT #15799 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Actually, if you dig deeper into the credits, two of the four art directors on Atlantis also worked on Treasure Planet (and, hey, one of them also worked on Wall*E and A:TLA! cool! (and another of the art directors is Mike Mignola! double cool!)), and a lot of the background painters and character animators worked on both films.

I like both of them a little more, and see more in them, every time I watch them.


DavidS - Jul 30, 2011 5:25:04 am PDT #15800 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Long Kiss Goodnight.

That's been on cable a lot lately, and it does hold up.

"Mommy, are we going to die?"
"No honey, they are."


Volans - Jul 30, 2011 11:33:59 am PDT #15801 of 30000
move out and draw fire

Aims, are you planning to take Em to the Spy Museum while you're in DC?

I liked Atlantis even at the time. The plot was meh but the concept and execution were much fun.

Emperor's New Groove is always underrated.

Dead Man and Brick.


Polter-Cow - Jul 30, 2011 11:45:14 am PDT #15802 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I thought Brick had a pretty good reputation. But I'm sure it made no money at the box office.