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tommyrot - Mar 01, 2011 8:36:08 am PST #13378 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

So, everybody knows that when Star Wars was originally released, it was not called "Episode IV - A New Hope", right?

I got into a big argument with a friend about that, but I couldn't find proof.

Anyway, 6 Classic Series You Didn't Know Were Made Up on the Fly

Most fans don't realize that the famous "Episode IV" isn't anywhere in the original opening crawl -- it was only added to later prints...


DavidS - Mar 01, 2011 8:47:19 am PST #13379 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

So, everybody knows that when Star Wars was originally released, it was not called "Episode IV - A New Hope", right?

Emmett and I have this problem when we discuss Star Wars, every time I talk about "the first Star Wars blah blah blah" and he rejoinders, "You mean the fourth one?"


Polter-Cow - Mar 01, 2011 8:49:45 am PST #13380 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

So, everybody knows that when Star Wars was originally released, it was not called "Episode IV - A New Hope", right?

I did not! I thought that was supposed to blow people's minds on opening night.


Steph L. - Mar 01, 2011 8:50:50 am PST #13381 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

So, everybody knows that when Star Wars was originally released, it was not called "Episode IV - A New Hope", right?

Were we supposed to know that?


tommyrot - Mar 01, 2011 8:51:30 am PST #13382 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Emmett and I have this problem when we discuss Star Wars, every time I talk about "the first Star Wars blah blah blah" and he rejoinders, "You mean the fourth one?"

Heh. You should say, "No, the first one, before Darth Vader was Luke's father and before Leia was his sister."


Beverly - Mar 01, 2011 8:52:20 am PST #13383 of 30000
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

We still argue with StY about the "Episode IV: A New Hope" thing, because we took him to see Star Wars, Empire, and Jedi when he was wee. It was only as an adult that he fell into the abyss of Clones, Revenger Siths and Phantom Menaces, and re-labeled his memories accordingly. He is really deep in the SW universe rabbit hole, but it keeps him out of the pool halls so we let him be.


tommyrot - Mar 01, 2011 8:54:17 am PST #13384 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Were we supposed to know that?

I thought so. But maybe the only people who know are those who saw it when it opened?


Tom Scola - Mar 01, 2011 8:54:37 am PST #13385 of 30000
hwæt

6 Classic Series You Didn't Know Were Made Up on the Fly

Except for Star Wars, I was pretty darn certain that all of those series were being made up on the fly as I watched them.


§ ita § - Mar 01, 2011 8:55:59 am PST #13386 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Anyone who thought Lost and BSG and X Files had a plan deserve to sup of the Kool Aid. I kinda forgive you if you thought 24 started out with a plan, just a really dumb one. Kinda.


Fiona - Mar 01, 2011 9:04:02 am PST #13387 of 30000

Emmett and I have this problem when we discuss Star Wars, every time I talk about "the first Star Wars blah blah blah" and he rejoinders, "You mean the fourth one?"

Oh God, B. and I have so many misunderstandings (~arguments) about this. It's the FIRST film and it is called STAR WARS; deal with it, kid!

But then I do quote B. a lot in my film history lectures with reference to the amount of money Lucas is still making (and, to be fair, the durability of his storytelling), and also the new ways of watching movies on DVD. For a purist like me, who always likes to watch films in one sitting and even has trouble taking a pee break at home, his approach is really something. Whenever it gets too scary or too boring, he zooms. He's through Star Wars in about 45 minutes. The other day I come up to find him whizzing through a scene in "Jedi". I asked him what was going on. "Oh it's really boring. Yoda just dies".

I am absolutely certain that when I saw Star Wars, the Episode IV stuff WAS in the crawl, because all around me the audience was going "huh?". But this was in Scotland in early 1978, so certainly not an original release print.

Edit: this leads me to a related rant, which is about Lucas rewriting history (which he can do because he kept the negative rights). How scary is it that the original versions of all three original films all but disappeared. Han shot first!