Jayne, you'll scare the women.

Zoe ,'Bushwhacked'


Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

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Matt the Bruins fan - May 11, 2009 12:22:56 pm PDT #1290 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't think McCoy's and Uhura's advancement bothered me. He was much older and more experienced than just about everyone around him, and she got a battlefield promotion to Lieutenant/Communications Officer after a mass culling that made Wolfram & Hart's annual reviews look bloodless by comparison. But Kirk got promoted to Captain from the position of stowaway by dint of taking insane daredevil risks and arguing with his commanding officer in a crisis situation until he prompted the latter to have a breakdown, rather than showing that he could be an effective responsible leader. And Scotty was apparently a standup comedian who abandoned the post he was assigned to as punishment on a whim. I can see the latter two getting commendations of valor, but not them being commissioned in their familiar roles immediately .


Connie Neil - May 11, 2009 12:28:57 pm PDT #1291 of 30000
brillig

re: Matt's whitefont--I see Hubby getting into his MST3K mode with this. Good thing we'll probably be seeing this in a dollar movie.


erikaj - May 11, 2009 12:29:13 pm PDT #1292 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

Heh, heh... "Fuck the bosses!" But that's not really how I think about Kirk. I see him as more of a boy scout.


Strega - May 11, 2009 12:41:54 pm PDT #1293 of 30000

"Jim Kirk was many things, but he was never a Boy Scout."


erikaj - May 11, 2009 12:46:22 pm PDT #1294 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

Okay, that's not quite right, I suppose, but a bit less of an anti-hero. Much more of white-hat type. But I have to admit to being a very casual Trek fan, so maybe I missed some flagrant rule-breaking in canon.


Connie Neil - May 11, 2009 12:52:29 pm PDT #1295 of 30000
brillig

Well, the Prime Directive against interference with alien societies was always more of a guideline than a rule with Kirk, but Starfleet did trust him with a kickass battleship.


Dana - May 11, 2009 12:57:43 pm PDT #1296 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

He disobeyed Starfleet a few times, usually when it had to do with Spock.


Sean K - May 11, 2009 1:05:39 pm PDT #1297 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

There are a small handful of incidences where Kirk's rules violations were so flagrant, he caused the rules to be rewritten (Kobiyashi Maru), or even have entire new branches of Star Fleet created (Temporal Enforcement).

Kirk practiced cowboy diplomacy.


tommyrot - May 11, 2009 1:14:29 pm PDT #1298 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

even have entire new branches of Star Fleet created (Temporal Enforcement).

As well as Aid for Dependents of Starfleet Officers.


Connie Neil - May 11, 2009 2:01:09 pm PDT #1299 of 30000
brillig

And of course, Kirk is at the top of the Most Wanted list at the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to World-Controlling Computers.