I thought that the first one was more memorable (I mean - it had Philip Glenister!)

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Quester, that article sumi was referring to is Ultraviolet light reveals how ancient Greek statues really looked.

Glenister was fabulous, but Dench, Atkins and Staunton all at once? Bliss.

Random movie-related question: I was reading a review online, and the review went into detail about a surprising scene. But it's the first scene of the movie. People in the comments were like, "Thanks for ruining the movie! Now I won't even bother seeing it! How about a spoiler warning, jackass???"

So, what do you people think? If a surprise comes in the first few minutes, how bad is it to know that ahead of time?

Edit: Or I should say, how much of a spoiler is it? Because I know people have different opinions about spoilers....

If it's surprising and it's not in the trailers, I want to see for myself. I'm probably not going to not bother seeing it, but yeah, tell people what's coming up. I don't understand why people wouldn't do that if they do realise it's surprising.

I'm a huge spoilerphobe, and while I would be sort of annoyed about a spoiled surprise in the first scene—because if it's set up as a surprise in the first scene, you're meant to be surprised, dammit—I certainly wouldn't consider the movie ruined, for crying out loud. (Was it clear from the review that the surprise was in the first scene? Because it's kind of like the trailer for The Town, where it seems to spoil a huge reveal, but that must come much earlier in the movie than I think it does, or that's shitty marketing.)

Ebert spoiled the fate of the one of the main characters in Cloverfield in, like, the first sentence of his review. And said character dies, like, five minutes from the end. Thankfully, I'd seen the movie already, but damn.

The reviewer said it was the scene before the opening credits.

Ebert spoiled the fate of the one of the main characters in Cloverfield in, like, the first sentence of his review. And said character dies, like, five minutes from the end.

This is like back copy of books that talks about some big event three-quarters in. Annoying!

Ebert is notorious for spoiling in his reviews.

I can't imagine how you'd go about describing most movie plots without talking about the first scene. And writing a review without saying anything about the plot doesn't leave you with much to say.

So, what do you people think? If a surprise comes in the first few minutes, how bad is it to know that ahead of time?

Think of how the series premiere of Buffy would have played if someone had told you "this schoolgirl vamps out and kills her date in the first three minutes!"