Am I supposed to be changing my clothes a lot? Is that the helpful thing to do?

Anya ,'Storyteller'


Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

A place to talk about movies--old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Scrappy - Aug 31, 2010 1:36:41 pm PDT #11049 of 30000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Glenister was fabulous, but Dench, Atkins and Staunton all at once? Bliss.


Jesse - Aug 31, 2010 2:29:47 pm PDT #11050 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Random movie-related question: I was reading a review online, and the review went into detail about a surprising scene. But it's the first scene of the movie. People in the comments were like, "Thanks for ruining the movie! Now I won't even bother seeing it! How about a spoiler warning, jackass???"

So, what do you people think? If a surprise comes in the first few minutes, how bad is it to know that ahead of time?

Edit: Or I should say, how much of a spoiler is it? Because I know people have different opinions about spoilers....


§ ita § - Aug 31, 2010 2:49:38 pm PDT #11051 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If it's surprising and it's not in the trailers, I want to see for myself. I'm probably not going to not bother seeing it, but yeah, tell people what's coming up. I don't understand why people wouldn't do that if they do realise it's surprising.


Polter-Cow - Aug 31, 2010 2:53:45 pm PDT #11052 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I'm a huge spoilerphobe, and while I would be sort of annoyed about a spoiled surprise in the first scene—because if it's set up as a surprise in the first scene, you're meant to be surprised, dammit—I certainly wouldn't consider the movie ruined, for crying out loud. (Was it clear from the review that the surprise was in the first scene? Because it's kind of like the trailer for The Town, where it seems to spoil a huge reveal, but that must come much earlier in the movie than I think it does, or that's shitty marketing.)

Ebert spoiled the fate of the one of the main characters in Cloverfield in, like, the first sentence of his review. And said character dies, like, five minutes from the end. Thankfully, I'd seen the movie already, but damn.


Jesse - Aug 31, 2010 2:55:17 pm PDT #11053 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

The reviewer said it was the scene before the opening credits.

Ebert spoiled the fate of the one of the main characters in Cloverfield in, like, the first sentence of his review. And said character dies, like, five minutes from the end.

This is like back copy of books that talks about some big event three-quarters in. Annoying!


tommyrot - Aug 31, 2010 4:11:32 pm PDT #11054 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Ebert is notorious for spoiling in his reviews.


Jessica - Aug 31, 2010 5:03:51 pm PDT #11055 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I can't imagine how you'd go about describing most movie plots without talking about the first scene. And writing a review without saying anything about the plot doesn't leave you with much to say.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 31, 2010 7:38:59 pm PDT #11056 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

So, what do you people think? If a surprise comes in the first few minutes, how bad is it to know that ahead of time?

Think of how the series premiere of Buffy would have played if someone had told you "this schoolgirl vamps out and kills her date in the first three minutes!"


Strega - Sep 01, 2010 7:39:07 am PDT #11057 of 30000

I dunno; is that scene valueless now because you know what's going to happen?

I understand that it's fun to be surprised by something, but sometimes people act as if "surprise" is the only pleasure one can get from a story. I have thought, "Gee, it would have been interesting to watch Psycho (or Alien, or any of 100 other movies) without any idea about what was coming." And it would have. But even knowing quite a lot about them, they were entertaining. And even surprising, because knowing what happens is not the same as experiencing it yourself.

People in the comments were like, "Thanks for ruining the movie! Now I won't even bother seeing it! How about a spoiler warning, jackass???"

With this sort of thing I feel like, if you don't want to know anything at all about a movie before seeing it, maybe you shouldn't read reviews of it?


Frankenbuddha - Sep 01, 2010 7:44:54 am PDT #11058 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

With this sort of thing I feel like, if you don't want to know anything at all about a movie before seeing it, maybe you shouldn't read reviews of it?

Bing! Bing! Bing! Bing! Bing!