I don't fancy spending the next month trying to get librarian out of the carpet.

Spike ,'Chosen'


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DebetEsse - Aug 21, 2010 6:37:38 pm PDT #10831 of 30000
Woe to the fucking wicked.

So, here is my Inception thing that no one else here has said:

It seems damn stupid to use someone else's Totem. The whole point is that Only You Know. Also, everyone knows what the gimmick is on the top, so secrecy? nsm. Finally, the difference between Cobb's and the others' is that the top does not function as expected in dreams, but does in the real world, whereas a loaded die, or a mis-weighted bishop would be rendered by someone unfamiliar with them as "normal" (random and of appropriate weight, respectively). The only way that I can see the top working is if he nudges dream-reality enough to keep it spinning (totally do-able for an Architect). However that depends on his subconscious realizing and wanting to acknowledge that it is a dream. Thus, if all that it takes for the top to register "reality" is either the person running the dream knowing how the top works (if they can override him) or him not wanting to know that it's a dream.

My theory on how deep is limbo (we talking about this at some length, though it hasn't really come up here) is that it's just below whatever the lowest constructed dream-reality is, thus time is very fluid, and probably subjective, which explains the asymmetrical aging of Kaito and Cobb.

The other thing that struck me, watching it, is that there is no character in the movie whose gender was particularly relevant to their character. Thus, there is no good reason why we had only one member of a 6-person team be female. In fact, I was gender-swapping Cobb after the movie was over.

And, in getting to the last tab of links on the movie, I have another thing. Dom's name is relatively un-referential (except to Nolan's own work), except that this movie talks about the subconscious a lot. The opposite of Sub(conscious) being Dom (Cobb).


§ ita § - Aug 21, 2010 7:02:25 pm PDT #10832 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Did either one of them hose the other one down, Matt?


Steph L. - Aug 21, 2010 8:19:19 pm PDT #10833 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

We saw Scott Pilgrim tonight. Man, Kieran Culkin was a *perfect* Wallace. Also, I thought it did a pretty good job of collapsing all 6 books into one movie.

Brandon Routh? AWESOME as Todd the vegan.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 21, 2010 9:19:28 pm PDT #10834 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Danger: Diabolik! One of the best spy villain lairs ever.

He also played Sinbad in one of the Harryhousen movies.


Polter-Cow - Aug 21, 2010 11:23:18 pm PDT #10835 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

We saw Scott Pilgrim tonight. Man, Kieran Culkin was a *perfect* Wallace.

Yes.

Also, I thought it did a pretty good job of collapsing all 6 books into one movie.

Yes.

Brandon Routh? AWESOME as Todd the vegan.

Yes.

The weird thing is that I don't think any of the actors portrayed the characters the way I read the characters in my head, but they were amazing with their particular portrayals, which totally worked.


Laga - Aug 21, 2010 11:34:48 pm PDT #10836 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Kim was exactly how I pictured her. Wallace was better.


Tom Scola - Aug 22, 2010 3:31:44 am PDT #10837 of 30000
hwæt

I don't think any of the actors portrayed the characters the way I read the characters in my head

I thought that Julie Powers was on.

And Kulkin totally deserves a best supporting actor nom.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 22, 2010 3:54:31 am PDT #10838 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Did either one of them hose the other one down, Matt?

I don't believe so, but Russell's character repeatedly needles Stallone's about his intent to sleep with the latter's sister in a way that screams "unless you care to make me a better offer..."


sumi - Aug 22, 2010 5:15:01 am PDT #10839 of 30000
Art Crawl!!!

DebetEsse, what about the possibility that the whole thing is in Mal's dream ?


Frankenbuddha - Aug 22, 2010 6:33:39 am PDT #10840 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

don't believe so, but Russell's character repeatedly needles Stallone's about his intent to sleep with the latter's sister in a way that screams "unless you care to make me a better offer..."

And of course, Russell ends up in drag later in the movie.