Angel: Yeah, I never told anyone about this, but I-I liked your poems. Spike: You like Barry Manilow.

'Hell Bound'


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Dana - Jul 30, 2010 9:55:04 am PDT #10321 of 30000
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

Oh, so here's another question which may have been answered by the credits but I didn't notice.

Is Michael Caine Cobb's father or Mal's father?


§ ita § - Jul 30, 2010 9:56:08 am PDT #10322 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They don't have surnames in IMDB, so that doesn't help.


Dana - Jul 30, 2010 9:59:51 am PDT #10323 of 30000
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

I guess I assumed that a man with an English accent would be more likely to have a French daughter, but then I read a review or a comment somewhere that referred to him as Cobb's father. I think to me, the relationship's much more interesting if Cobb basically killed his daughter.


Jesse - Jul 30, 2010 10:00:50 am PDT #10324 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I definitely thought he was Moll's father, but I'm not sure why I thought that. I definitely thought her name was Moll.


sj - Jul 30, 2010 10:08:10 am PDT #10325 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I assumed he was Cobb's father, and that he had raised Cobb with the dream skills. I thought there was some reference to that in their conversation.


Polter-Cow - Jul 30, 2010 10:08:12 am PDT #10326 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I also thought he was Mal's father, and that her name was Moll. I agree with Dana, but I've seen different reviews say different things, with authority.


Dana - Jul 30, 2010 10:19:59 am PDT #10327 of 30000
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

Okay, putting actual thought into it now, I guess I also figured that Michael Caine had Cobb as a student and taught him how to architect dreams. If that's a verb. Which it probably shouldn't be.


Sue - Jul 30, 2010 10:24:06 am PDT #10328 of 30000
hip deep in pie

I'm pretty sure he calls him his father in law.


smonster - Jul 30, 2010 10:31:44 am PDT #10329 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

When Cobb comes to Miles, Miles says "So you've come to take my best and brightest" in a way that makes me feel like the "...again" is implicit. Like Mal is Miles' daughter and maybe Cobb and Mal met in Miles' classes, or something. All speculation.

Here's another thing I've been wondering: I think Cobb says that the token was Mal's idea, and I know the top was hers. But did Cobb have a totem before the top, and if so what was it? I mean, there's no way to know, I've just been toying* with the thought .

* ha!


sj - Jul 30, 2010 10:32:30 am PDT #10330 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

According to a quick google search there a multiple links to a video in which Michael Caine refers to his character as Cobb's father-in-law. So, I guess I was wrong. I can't actually play the video on my computer right now.