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Amy - Jul 25, 2010 7:13:57 am PDT #10071 of 30000
Because books.

Saw Inception last night. I'd definitely like to see it again.

I think the last shot is the most important one, and I think I agree with the Salon piece's interpretation: this feels like a movie about movies, about the way we agree to share a reality, and the stamp we each put on it. It doesn't bother me that one interpretation is that the whole thing is a dream, but it does bother me that then there's no clear starting point. If I'm following the rules of dreaming, too, it seems then that this would mean Cobb is not the dreamer, he's the subject -- if the whole thing was a job to plant an idea in *his* mind. But then who is the dreamer?

I don't think it really matters, in the end. The emotional sticking point for me, the thing that resonated, was that Cobb doesn't stick around to see if the top falls or keeps spinning. He doesn't care anymore -- what he wants is his children, and he chooses them, real or not.

I also agree with Jessica's criticisms upthread -- the movie was gorgeous and fascinating, but the emotional heart of the movie was Cobb. By the time we got to the snow level, I was confused and sort of bored, because I wanted to know what was going to happen to Cobb, not Fisher. It seemed really clear all the way through that the point of the movie was not whether they succeeded in inception with Fisher, but whether Cobb was going to figure his own shit out.

I feel I should add that Joseph Gordon-Levitt grew up FINE. Wow.


sj - Jul 25, 2010 7:19:57 am PDT #10072 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

The emotional sticking point for me

For me too.


Dana - Jul 25, 2010 7:21:54 am PDT #10073 of 30000
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

My favorite bit in Inception was Arthur's whole bit in the hotel after the gravity went out. So imaginative, and I had not thought that it would be awesome to see Joseph Gordon Levitt floating around in a suit. But it was super awesome.


Amy - Jul 25, 2010 7:23:12 am PDT #10074 of 30000
Because books.

Absolutely, Dana. And that part *felt* like a dream, too, which I appreciated, whereas the snow level just felt like a generic action movie .


Sean K - Jul 25, 2010 8:21:29 am PDT #10075 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

That was the best practical (in camera) weightlessness I've ever seen (outside of Apollo 13, which used actual weightlessness).


Sean K - Jul 25, 2010 9:08:21 am PDT #10076 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Okay, as I said, I think I need to see Inception three or four more times to really get a handle on it. I still need to catch up on all the white font, but here's my take:

I'm not at all convinced that there's a single moment of that film that takes place in the waking world. I got the distinct impression very early on in the film that we were watching Nolan's Finnegan's Wake.


Sean K - Jul 25, 2010 9:27:57 am PDT #10077 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

P-C, I want to respond to this post and say that I felt like I caught several hints throughout the film that the "reality" level was, in fact, a dream. I have to see it again before I can list them off, but I felt like there were some tantalizing hints there. The most significant being that his kids hadn't seemed to have aged AT ALL, despite the fact that Cobb gave the sense that he had been an expat for a while, and those kids were clearly at an age where days, weeks and months bring about significant changes, let alone years.


Jessica - Jul 25, 2010 9:47:26 am PDT #10078 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm not at all convinced that [spoiler font]

Me neither. I think beginning the film the way we do, dropped right into the middle of the action, is a big clue to that effect.


Sean K - Jul 25, 2010 9:55:27 am PDT #10079 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

And the best part is that it doesn't matter. I think Nolan's whole point was that the relevant part of the movie, the emotional journey, is completely irrelevant to the plot, even in super-plotty action movies.

Also, I'm very amused that Salt opened #2 this weekend, so not only did Chris Nolan just kick Angelina Jolie's ass, he's got better legs too.


Sean K - Jul 25, 2010 9:57:27 am PDT #10080 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Or, should I say that the plot is completely irrelevant to the emotional journey? I don't know. They were both fun and satisfying in the movie, and had almost nothing to do with each other, on purpose. I'm sure I'm not making any sense at all.