Cordelia: I get it now. You're all spies. Probably all Russian. And you've brainwashed me, and want me to believe we're friends so I'll spill the beans about some nano-technology thingy that you want. Gunn: So I look Russian to you? Cordelia: Black Russian. Angel: That's a drink.

'Hell Bound'


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Volans - Jul 23, 2010 1:45:09 pm PDT #10062 of 30000
move out and draw fire

I find it noteworthy that the official Disney press release didn't even acknowledge the existence of the Eddie Murphy film.


§ ita § - Jul 24, 2010 11:45:01 am PDT #10063 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Karl Urban to play Judge Dredd (it's buried down there below Trek II talk).


quester - Jul 24, 2010 3:49:24 pm PDT #10064 of 30000
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I just got back from seeing Inception and I just read all the white-font. I found it a very involving movie. I didn't check my watch once. And I surprised myself by being a little teary at the end.

I haven't made up my mind yet whether I believe it was all a dream or whose dream it might have been. Or whether the last part was Cobb's dream, because I'm not sure it wasn't.


SuziQ - Jul 24, 2010 6:39:10 pm PDT #10065 of 30000
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

We saw The Kids are Alright today. The friend of Kelly's who is staying with us this week has two moms and she said so much of it rang true to her.

Annette Benning and Julianne Moore were fantastic.


quester - Jul 24, 2010 6:59:08 pm PDT #10066 of 30000
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I want to get Inception when it comes out on dvd just to watch with the captions on because I didn't understand 90% of Ken Watenabe's dialoge.


§ ita § - Jul 24, 2010 7:19:18 pm PDT #10067 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There was an entire post about Watanabe (and Rampage Jackson and Vin Diesel) mumbling on IO9 of his, and seriously, I missed one sentence, which later worked out by context. Maybe your theatre had a compromised audio setup.

I really enjoyed the movie.

I didn't see the supposition here that the actual job was on Cobb to get the idea of the inception out of his head. Which was why Ariadne had to talk him into going as far as he did.

No comment on the final state of the totem. Plenty wobbly noises, But we weren't meant to know the answer--the question is, when would the dream have started? With the movie, or with the part where the heavy drugs started? Because once he starts revisiting Mal, we never see him spin the top to falling again, but we have seen it done so before.

However, if it started at the beginning, he's a thoroughly unreliable narrator on all aspects of dream reality, and every plot hole from then on is is his fault.

I have to admit, I found some of the jump cuts jarring, after he explained the "no, but how did we get *right* *here*" speech to Ariadne in the dream. I suddenly felt like there was a lot less movement in segments of the movie. Plus they'd shown an Old Spice ad before the flic started.


Sean K - Jul 24, 2010 9:29:11 pm PDT #10068 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I saw Inception. Still have to go back and read all the white font. I think I need to see it three or four more times. I definitely liked it.

Marion Cotillard blew me away. Her character was all over the map, and had to carry all of it convincingly, which she did.


Volans - Jul 25, 2010 4:44:55 am PDT #10069 of 30000
move out and draw fire

I'm living life by Netflix, which means I just (finally!) watched Moon and just walked out on 2012. DH watched all of 2012, but at 3x speed. We agreed that the script meeting for 2012 was a few Art Bell fans and industry types writing all the cliches they could think of on Post-it notes, putting those in a random order, and sending that to the render farm. Done.

Moon, however, was exceptionally good. I had a couple quibbles, but I can handwave them pretty easily.


le nubian - Jul 25, 2010 7:08:12 am PDT #10070 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Raq,

Beau and I just saw 2012 last weekend. We MST3K the movie - which is probably the only sane way to watch it.


Amy - Jul 25, 2010 7:13:57 am PDT #10071 of 30000
Because books.

Saw Inception last night. I'd definitely like to see it again.

I think the last shot is the most important one, and I think I agree with the Salon piece's interpretation: this feels like a movie about movies, about the way we agree to share a reality, and the stamp we each put on it. It doesn't bother me that one interpretation is that the whole thing is a dream, but it does bother me that then there's no clear starting point. If I'm following the rules of dreaming, too, it seems then that this would mean Cobb is not the dreamer, he's the subject -- if the whole thing was a job to plant an idea in *his* mind. But then who is the dreamer?

I don't think it really matters, in the end. The emotional sticking point for me, the thing that resonated, was that Cobb doesn't stick around to see if the top falls or keeps spinning. He doesn't care anymore -- what he wants is his children, and he chooses them, real or not.

I also agree with Jessica's criticisms upthread -- the movie was gorgeous and fascinating, but the emotional heart of the movie was Cobb. By the time we got to the snow level, I was confused and sort of bored, because I wanted to know what was going to happen to Cobb, not Fisher. It seemed really clear all the way through that the point of the movie was not whether they succeeded in inception with Fisher, but whether Cobb was going to figure his own shit out.

I feel I should add that Joseph Gordon-Levitt grew up FINE. Wow.