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Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


beth b - Mar 15, 2009 5:35:33 pm PDT #3633 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I actually like Alice Waters food philosophy. Just because it isn't practical for all , doesn't mean there isn't a lot to what she says. Our current ways of producing food is toxic. We eat things that derive from natural things, but we've twisted them so our bodies don't recognizes them as food. We've add things to food that have taken advantage of our instincts/ natural leanings that make us want/crave more.

Even a slightly more thoughtful attitude towards food could improve the health of both the people and the planet.


Laga - Mar 15, 2009 5:40:21 pm PDT #3634 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I never saw the appeal of this "Hole in the Wall" show but right now I'm watching a dance crew vs. a team of contortionists and it's pretty entertaining.


beth b - Mar 15, 2009 5:40:45 pm PDT #3635 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

ha x-post

In my Utopian fantasies, we save the world with victory gardens.

I wonder if all I has to do was worry about survival if I could grow enough food.


Ginger - Mar 15, 2009 5:48:17 pm PDT #3636 of 30000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I agree with Alice Waters' philosophy, but she didn't come off well on 60 Minutes. What she seemed clueless about was the amount of time the average person can devote to cooking.


beth b - Mar 15, 2009 5:53:52 pm PDT #3637 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I don't think she has a realistic view - ever. But she did create a successful business based on her philosophy. And she has helped a number of local business, over all. ( local farmers) And lots of people in this area have changed how they think about food.

And I don't think 60 minutes ever tries to make anyone look good.


Laga - Mar 15, 2009 5:58:21 pm PDT #3638 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

She also (I learned on Wikipedia) pioneered a program where a grade school in Berkely grows a lot of its own food.


Connie Neil - Mar 15, 2009 6:04:11 pm PDT #3639 of 30000
brillig

Rather more she's in complete disagreement with how the rest of the country lives.

Paycheck to paycheck, in a place where the kitchen is a closet, the garden could be shoehorned into two square feet of window sill, you have other things to do with your life than spend it on the zen of cooking, and you can either buy three day's worth of pure, wholesome, morally correct food or two week's worth of something that will keep people alive and hopefully somewhat satisfied.

Sorry, religious zealots of all stripes tend to irk me.


amych - Mar 15, 2009 6:08:19 pm PDT #3640 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

What, um, a lot of people ^^^^^ said. And (not having seen this particular interview) Waters does often come off as more than a little unrealistic -- maddeningly so, even. But if it weren't for what she's done over the years, we wouldn't be in the position we're in as a culture to finally start taking back some damned sense in our food culture.

Check out Bittman's Food Matters if Waters drives you crazy or Pollan is too preachy for you. It's thoroughly sensibly grounded, and all about how eating consciously is better for both health and the planet.

(And I'll even refrain from CSA fangirling or my-garden-likes-carrots. At least until it grows the carrots. Then we'll see whether it likes them or not.)


omnis_audis - Mar 15, 2009 6:08:07 pm PDT #3641 of 30000
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

Nods with Connie.


Cass - Mar 15, 2009 6:08:40 pm PDT #3642 of 30000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

or two week's worth of something that will keep people alive

Alive, maybe. But not necessarily healthy by any measure.

I am not saying everyone should eat the way Alice Waters says, but it's not the worst idea. And saying "it's not the way the world is" is like saying that "violence is part of cities, especially inner cities." It's true. But it doesn't, to me, mean we should not strive for something more healthy and sustainable.