thanks Hil and Typo Boy! Dang, it's not on youtube.
Sir? I'd like you to take the helm, please. I need this man to tear all my clothes off.
Zoe ,'Serenity'
Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.
[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.
Laga - Mar 12, 2009 10:07:51 pm PDT #3422 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
Volans - Mar 13, 2009 3:13:37 am PDT #3423 of 30000
move out and draw fire
Is there supposed to be a message in this book?
Oh, I think you are seeing it. I also think I'm really glad to be living now and not then.
Sparky1 - Mar 13, 2009 3:46:47 am PDT #3424 of 30000
Librarian Warlord
And who cares about New Zealand.
Besides me? Sox and her sister that lives there might have a strong opinion.
Calling Perkins: there are a few pictures of my obviously pregnant self up on Facebook. Not great ones -- for some reason my niece concentrated her efforts last weekend on the birthday girl and her cousins and not her old auntie.
Toddson - Mar 13, 2009 4:17:48 am PDT #3425 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"
My favorite proverb, revised, is:
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you get him out of the house for the weekend.
Hil R. - Mar 13, 2009 4:39:45 am PDT #3426 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
OK, as far as I can tell, the message of Elsie Dinsmore is that it's your Christian duty to respect and obey your father, even if he's a sadistic abusive asshole.
vw bug - Mar 13, 2009 4:40:54 am PDT #3427 of 30000
Mostly lurking...
OK, as far as I can tell, the message of Elsie Dinsmore is that it's your Christian duty to respect and obey your father, even if he's a sadistic abusive asshole.
I haven't read the book, but I'd bet it's paralleling the relationship you're supposed to have with your "Heavenly Father," as a Christian.
Fay - Mar 13, 2009 4:47:20 am PDT #3428 of 30000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
The message I'm taking, just from your comments so far, is "Down with the patriarchy! Boys are stupid, throw rocks at them!"
Hil R. - Mar 13, 2009 4:49:47 am PDT #3429 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
Every single other character in the book, child and adult, says that her father is a tyrant and cruel. Like, in one scene, at a party, a friend of her father's asks her to play the piano and sing something. Elsie says she's too shy, she can't play and sing in front of this many people. The friend says that he withdraws his request, she doesn't have to sing if it'll upset her that much, but then her father says that no, he orders her to play and sing as requested. She's crying so much that she can't see the music or get her voice out, and totally makes a mess of the playing and singing, and her father says that she's humiliated him by performing so badly in front of his guests and sends her to bed without dinner.
Oh, and her father is not a Christian and thinks that Christians are hypocrites, which is one of the reasons that he doesn't particularly like Elsie, because she is a Christian.
Lee - Mar 13, 2009 4:51:31 am PDT #3430 of 30000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Calling Perkins: there are a few pictures of my obviously pregnant self up on Facebook. Not great ones -- for some reason my niece concentrated her efforts last weekend on the birthday girl and her cousins and not her old auntie.
YAY
Hil R. - Mar 13, 2009 4:56:23 am PDT #3431 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
OK, Elsie's "logic" is that, since the Bible says to obey your parents, disobeying her father is the same as disobeying God.