This here's a recipe for unpleasantness.

Mal ,'Objects In Space'


Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


-t - Nov 02, 2009 10:53:08 am PST #29115 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

How can that be right? I mean, it's clearly not right, but how can that be the law? Argh.


Barb - Nov 02, 2009 10:54:53 am PST #29116 of 30000
“Not dead yet!”

It's all bullshit. I'm sitting here spluttering that Jess is only granted two days of maternity leave and that GC & DW have to go through such crap to parent their own child. I'm adding Bertha the baseball bat to the beatdown mix.


Cass - Nov 02, 2009 11:02:22 am PST #29117 of 30000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

For those who like such things, a class in pyrotechnics ... basically, setting things on fire and blowing them up. Quote from the professor's assistant, "When samples don't ignite as quickly as he'd like, he gets out the blowtorch."

Or Jilli or Cass? Or me?

YES! Bev is the best. She'll let me play with fire and stuff.

talking about the promotee telling his children someday about how he was off in Iraq defending America from the people who crashed two planes into two towers.

This is just massively upsetting to me.

How can that be right? I mean, it's clearly not right, but how can that be the law? Argh.

As are the idiotic hops that Glam and DW are being forced to jump through just to legally make their family a ... family.

edit: hoOps, not hops. Being forced to jump through hops makes no sense at ALL either though.


Toddson - Nov 02, 2009 11:36:35 am PST #29118 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

We're having a big fuss in DC over same sex marriage - there's a bill before the council and a massive group of people opposed. Many of them were organized (back when the initial proposal to recognize same sex marriages from other states was brought up) by churches from outside DC. There is also a group of clergy from a whole range of denominations that is in support of marriage equality. Gave me a little glow when they had a clip of their first meeting on TV and there, big as life and charasmatic as all get-out, was the rector of my church.


Trudy Booth - Nov 02, 2009 12:23:24 pm PST #29119 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I think a lot of people don't realize that any number of US churches were performing gay marriages well before any US states or cities were even discussing it.


WindSparrow - Nov 02, 2009 12:41:02 pm PST #29120 of 30000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

What a bunch of crappy, ugly things Seska, GC & her DW, and Stephanie are being confronted with today. I'm sorry. I wish I had more than words for each of you.


omnis_audis - Nov 02, 2009 1:10:04 pm PST #29121 of 30000
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

GC, I wonder if there is anyone associated with the GLBT community that can help, pro bono or otherwise, with the asinine adventure that you and DW have to go through. And I'm on the line with everyone else of "pissed off". I remember a co-worker in CA, when she got married, telling me the list of things that her marriage doesn't legally cover. I forget how long it was, and all the things on it. But it helped me understand that in this day and age, marriage is *really* just a legal contract that allows you rights and access to each others things and lives. Banks. Hospital stuff. Children. Inheritance. Nothing to do with love or religion. And the fact that a het marriage gets all that with the swoop of a pen, and a same-gender marriage has to jump through a MILLION hoops and fork out a ton of cash, is just wrong!

ION- long detailed e-mail of "why playing the same sound cues in rehearsal as was played last year in Christmas Carol will not sound the same", was responded from my boss with "good e-mail. Clearly written." Why yes, I do love it when I'm told I do a good job. Especially when brain is still fuzzy from weeks of OMGWTF hours.


Cass - Nov 02, 2009 1:41:32 pm PST #29122 of 30000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

But it helped me understand that in this day and age, marriage is *really* just a legal contract that allows you rights and access to each others things and lives. Banks. Hospital stuff. Children. Inheritance. Nothing to do with love or religion. And the fact that a het marriage gets all that with the swoop of a pen, and a same-gender marriage has to jump through a MILLION hoops and fork out a ton of cash, is just wrong!

I, personally, don't care what the hell they call it, I just want the ability to have the same rights in my next relationship whether it is with a man or a woman as I had in my het ex-marriage.

It doesn't seem like it should be so complicated... I get that it is, but it shouldn't be.


Toddson - Nov 02, 2009 1:52:59 pm PST #29123 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

And for all the people who say that allowing two people of the same sex to marry would devalue the institution of marriage, how about all the people you hear about (admittedly, mostly celebrities) who marry, divorce, and remarry? and the infidelity that seems to be so common? How could allowing two men or two women who've been together for years to make it formal be any worse for marriage than what we're seeing?


Trudy Booth - Nov 02, 2009 1:54:21 pm PST #29124 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

GC, I wonder if there is anyone associated with the GLBT community that can help, pro bono or otherwise, with the asinine adventure that you and DW have to go through.

I'd be tempted to fight it. Its challenges to that sort of inconsistency (coupled with the grandfathered gay couples BUT NO MORE! "legal" status) that is going to get that rediculousness overturned.

However, it's not just Gloom and DW they need to worry about now! Baby person is coming! And it might not be in his best interest to fight that battle right now...