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P.M. Marc - Oct 09, 2009 12:14:17 pm PDT #25901 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Plei, I ask this is all ignorance: are those two separate topics?

Yes, actually!

Though the infertility *boards* as I recall tend to be more like the regular TTC boards, but weepier. The blogs, OTOH, are a mix of heartbreaking and hilarious.


javachik - Oct 09, 2009 12:16:19 pm PDT #25902 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Oh okay. 'cause the blogs are just one person's account, with them having control over content and tone? I get it. Sorry for my ignernce.


Aims - Oct 09, 2009 12:38:04 pm PDT #25903 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

And, too add to the interest, IME, secondary infertility sites are much different that primary infertility sites. If you have been diagnosed with secondary infertility, primary infertility sites are not always friendly places to be because the general feeling is "At least you have a baby. Shut up and be happy about that and go away."


javachik - Oct 09, 2009 12:44:56 pm PDT #25904 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I could see that being the case.


Barb - Oct 09, 2009 12:48:51 pm PDT #25905 of 30000
“Not dead yet!”

pun intended, presumably?

But of course.

I suspect that infertility boards/blogs would have driven me to commit unspeakable acts. I also hate the idea that just because you have one child, you should be shunned because you're finding it difficult to conceive another. I still remember in the wake of the miscarriage from my first pregnancy, I had someone say to me, when I expressed concern about being able to get pregnant again, "Well you really need to stop complaining-- at least you know you CAN get pregnant even if you can't carry it."


P.M. Marc - Oct 09, 2009 12:50:58 pm PDT #25906 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Given that a fair number of the infertility bloggers were recurrent m/c vets, the blogs would've been okay.


Polter-Cow - Oct 09, 2009 12:51:51 pm PDT #25907 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

"Well you really need to stop complaining-- at least you know you CAN get pregnant even if you can't carry it."

...


P.M. Marc - Oct 09, 2009 12:52:53 pm PDT #25908 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I will admit, when I was struggling to have even ONE kid, I really didn't have a lot of sympathy to spare for people who were having problems going for more.

It's a seriously visceral kind of pain, with no logic or reason to it.


Aims - Oct 09, 2009 12:56:21 pm PDT #25909 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Oh totally. I can remember feeling that way when someone was trying for number 2 or beyond was upset. But, hindsight being 20/20 and all, they both hurt really really a lot and is horrible and I wish so many women didn't have to go through it.


javachik - Oct 09, 2009 1:01:06 pm PDT #25910 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

My best friend from high school, with whom I am still very close, had a baby after many miscarriages. He was born looking healthy and beautiful but had a rare genetic disorder and died a few months later, having never left the hospital save for his last weekend, during which my friend and her husband chose to take him home (the docs thought he'd last for hours but they got to have him for an entire weekend).

Later that year, when her mother in law was introducing my friend to someone at a wedding party, and the subject of motherhood came up, my friend's m-i-l said, "Well, I had a grandson, for a few minutes. It didn't take."

I am not making this shit up.