Yes. Men like sports. Men watch the action movie, they eat of the beef, and enjoy to look at the bosoms. A thousand years of avenging our wrongs and that's all you've learned?

Xander ,'End of Days'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cashmere - Mar 06, 2009 7:06:50 am PST #9400 of 30000
Now tagless for your comfort.

What are people doing this weekend?

I'm running a five mile race tomorrow that starts and ends at the local brewery. With free beer at the end.

I know I can do at least 4 miles. I'll crawl the last mile for free beer if I have to.


SailAweigh - Mar 06, 2009 7:06:51 am PST #9401 of 30000
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Tonight: Dinner with the family.

Saturday: Craft day with daughter, sewing an apron.

Sunday: Netflix DVD watch day.


Typo Boy - Mar 06, 2009 7:17:18 am PST #9402 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I'm also less likely to get exercised over a physical fight where both give as good as they get. Probably because I find it hard to call someone an abuser if they get as many bruises as they dish out.

I dunno. If you fight back you are not being abused? If you fight back successfully, then then it was OK for the other person to start the fight?


Fred Pete - Mar 06, 2009 7:22:02 am PST #9403 of 30000
Ann, that's a ferret.

Good questions, TB, and ones I hadn't thought of. Mutual violence certainly isn't likely to happen in a healthy relationship.

Beyond that, must rethink.


lisah - Mar 06, 2009 7:25:06 am PST #9404 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

I know I can do at least 4 miles.

If you can do 4 you can do 5!


Gudanov - Mar 06, 2009 7:32:25 am PST #9405 of 30000
Coding and Sleeping

I dunno. If you fight back you are not being abused?

That seems really conditional. If a woman hits a man to little effect and the man hits back causing injury wouldn't the woman be the abused? Is it a matter of intent or actual harm? If the man never lays a hand on the woman except for a reaction to being struck is he an abuser? To me it seems like either intent or harm is abuse, but I can see how there can be shades of gray.


Nora Deirdre - Mar 06, 2009 7:44:03 am PST #9406 of 30000
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Tonight: going to a "congratulations for getting citizenship" dinner celebration for a friend.

Tomorrow: Study, study, study. Maybe sushi for dinner if I'm good

Sunday: Study, maybe cooking.


Fred Pete - Mar 06, 2009 7:56:13 am PST #9407 of 30000
Ann, that's a ferret.

If the man never lays a hand on the woman except for a reaction to being struck is he an abuser?

I'd think one factor would be proportionality of response, as in self-defense. If A hits B to little effect, pushing A away might be appropriate. Breaking bones would not.


Steph L. - Mar 06, 2009 8:01:34 am PST #9408 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I'm running a five mile race tomorrow that starts and ends at the local brewery. With free beer at the end.

I know I can do at least 4 miles. I'll crawl the last mile for free beer if I have to.

Not even for free beer would I run any distance. And y'all know how I feel about beer.


Nora Deirdre - Mar 06, 2009 8:03:54 am PST #9409 of 30000
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

"Do you run?" "Only when chased."