I had read that too, billytea, at some point. Dunno if I buy that part of it, but certainly provocative.
calling ita: thoughts on these earrings?
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Kat - Mar 04, 2009 7:11:10 pm PST #9159 of 30000
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§ ita § - Mar 04, 2009 7:32:33 pm PST #9160 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
thoughts on these earrings?
I'm not sure what organic wire wrapping means, but, regardless, I think they're pretty and almost delicate. I say go for it.
Strega - Mar 04, 2009 7:45:18 pm PST #9161 of 30000
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aurelia - Mar 04, 2009 7:48:45 pm PST #9162 of 30000
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I wonder if they're using organic to describe the style in which the wire is wrapped, as opposed to a more precice/rigid/linear style. Beautiful lighting and photography there.
§ ita § - Mar 04, 2009 7:49:29 pm PST #9163 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Quick poll:
- Does the term "underwear" include the bra?
- Does "undergarment"?
For me, the answers are yes and yes, but I'm thinking that in the US at least the answer to the first is "no." Based on a snippet of a Style TV special I saw today, the answer to the second is "yes."
Which doesn't make all the sense in the world to me.
§ ita § - Mar 04, 2009 7:50:25 pm PST #9164 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I wonder if they're using organic to describe the style in which the wire is wrapped, as opposed to a more precice/rigid/linear style
The first time I typed it out, I left out the word "wrapping" but then I looked at it again and realised maybe that's what was organic. I still think it's overuse of the term, but less impossible.
Strega - Mar 04, 2009 8:13:49 pm PST #9165 of 30000
I think I'd generally interpret "underwear" to include bras.
And I'd interpret "undergarment" to mean the speaker is being oddly formal for someone talking about underwear.
JenP - Mar 04, 2009 8:17:45 pm PST #9166 of 30000
For me, the answers are yes and yes, but I'm thinking that in the US at least the answer to the first is "no." Based on a snippet of a Style TV special I saw today, the answer to the second is "yes."
For me, it's 1 - no, 2 - yes. And undergarments could be further expanded to include slips, camis, etc. For me, anyway.
ETA: But mostly I'd use the particular words for each item. Unless I were being lazy. And oddly formal.
Hil R. - Mar 04, 2009 8:20:43 pm PST #9167 of 30000
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I'd say "underwear" can include bras, and "undergarments" does include bras. If I said "I went to the store and bought new underwear," I'd probably mean panties, but if I said "She's wearing only underwear," that would mean bra and panties. "Undergarments" sounds kind of old-fashioned, and sounds like it includes a slip and a girdle.
§ ita § - Mar 04, 2009 8:26:22 pm PST #9168 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
For me underwear includes slip, girdle, garter belt, all that stuff that you wear under. But I've bumped into enough situations where underwear ∋ bras. I can't see why it wouldn't.
The insertion of "undergarment" into the Style TV piece made me think they were avoiding "underwear" for some reason. Perhaps because it wasn't the superset.