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Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


megan walker - Feb 23, 2009 10:55:08 am PST #7960 of 30000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I'm curious -- what is it that you find attractive about her?

I think she's attractive, particularly her bone structure. But maybe striking is a better word.

And I think she looked fabulous last night, despite her god-awful dress. But she often has hideous clothes.

Furthermore, to me, she's not one of those people trying to be a "star", so I give her more of a pass on wardrobe. But the people trying? Who have all the resources in the world to look great? I don't get why they make the choices they do.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 23, 2009 10:55:34 am PST #7961 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think it was here that I once commented about Swinton being beautiful without actually being pretty. There's just something compelling about her—I'm pretty sure it's a combo of movement and expression rather than anything concrete about her features.


Steph L. - Feb 23, 2009 10:55:50 am PST #7962 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I think Tilda Swinton is unnaturally beautiful, but not very attractive.

Hm. Again, I'm curious, but just about the semantics: how can someone be beautiful but not attractive (or even "not very" attractive)? I would have thought it would be the other way around. Like, one can be attractive but not beautiful, but not vice versa.

Sean Bean and Daniel Craig are rugged verging on the joli laid. Manly and rrowr.

I see the rugged, but it doesn't come off as attractive to me.


Aims - Feb 23, 2009 10:59:33 am PST #7963 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

There's aomething about Swinton that just doesn't click with me, either. I see how she is strikingly ... something. But I can't call it beautiful. Then again, I can't just dimiss her, either. She's got this presence that kind of haunts you.

t /Aimee on Tilda


tommyrot - Feb 23, 2009 11:00:12 am PST #7964 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I googled Swinton images - for me, anyway, the less feminine she appears, the more attractive. So I'm guessing it's the androgynity that does it for me.


§ ita § - Feb 23, 2009 11:01:30 am PST #7965 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

how can someone be beautiful but not attractive (or even "not very" attractive

She doesn't look human enough for me to find her attractive. She inhabits the uncanny valley, for me. But I can't take my eyes off her--bone structure as other people have cited is a biggie, and something about her eyes.

Salma Hayek is attractive. She looks touchable. Hella attractive. And beautiful.


meara - Feb 23, 2009 11:06:23 am PST #7966 of 30000

I think she looked dreadful last night. But I totally agree with the Fug Girls that she is crazy awesome, in her own way, and should totally go by "Swinton!".

I also agree that the less feminine she appears the more attractive. (Except in that Narnia dress, where she is GORGEOUS).

I think what's kind of awesome about her is how changeable she is. She is striking, but also at the same time can look SO DIFFERENT...not a blank slate, exactly, because she IS striking, but add a bit of this and a wardrobe and make up and hair and WHOAH, does she look completely and totally different than she did in a previous role/movie.


Scrappy - Feb 23, 2009 11:09:10 am PST #7967 of 30000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Some men and women look beautiful to me, as in they are lovely things to look at, but they don't arouse one iota of lust (young Cary Grant). Some are beautiful AND lustworthy (Ewan Macgregor), and some just lustworthy (Daniel Craig). YLustMV


tommyrot - Feb 23, 2009 11:24:35 am PST #7968 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

ION, Fox News "war games" the coming civil war

That's the context for this Glenn Beck "War Games" show on Fox News this week -- one promoted, with some mild and obligatory caveats, by Michelle Malkin's Hot Air. In the segment below, he convened a panel that includes former CIA officer Michael Scheuer and Ret. U.S. Army Sgt. Major Tim Strong. They discuss a coming "civil war" led by American "Bubba" militias -- Beck says he "believes we're on this road" -- and they contemplate whether the U.S. military would follow the President's orders to subdue civil unrest or would instead join with "the people" in defense of their Constitutional rights against the Government (they agree that the U.S. military would be with "the people"):


P.M. Marc - Feb 23, 2009 11:24:53 am PST #7969 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I'm curious -- what is it that you find attractive about her? Because to my eyes she's so very plain and creepy, but I read lots of praise about her appearance. So -- given that everyone's MMV (I will *never* understand the appeal of, say, Sean Bean, or the new James Bond guy), what features/characteristics make Tilda Swinton so appealing?

She's got this intensity about her, and this sort of knowingness to her smiles. And, wow, her hair. And have I mentioned her voice? I haven't. Her voice. Yes.

She's just... guh!

Signed, please don't ask me how many times I've seen Orlando.