There's aomething about Swinton that just doesn't click with me, either. I see how she is strikingly ... something. But I can't call it beautiful. Then again, I can't just dimiss her, either. She's got this presence that kind of haunts you.

t /Aimee on Tilda

I googled Swinton images - for me, anyway, the less feminine she appears, the more attractive. So I'm guessing it's the androgynity that does it for me.

how can someone be beautiful but not attractive (or even "not very" attractive

She doesn't look human enough for me to find her attractive. She inhabits the uncanny valley, for me. But I can't take my eyes off her--bone structure as other people have cited is a biggie, and something about her eyes.

Salma Hayek is attractive. She looks touchable. Hella attractive. And beautiful.

I think she looked dreadful last night. But I totally agree with the Fug Girls that she is crazy awesome, in her own way, and should totally go by "Swinton!".

I also agree that the less feminine she appears the more attractive. (Except in that Narnia dress, where she is GORGEOUS).

I think what's kind of awesome about her is how changeable she is. She is striking, but also at the same time can look SO DIFFERENT...not a blank slate, exactly, because she IS striking, but add a bit of this and a wardrobe and make up and hair and WHOAH, does she look completely and totally different than she did in a previous role/movie.

Some men and women look beautiful to me, as in they are lovely things to look at, but they don't arouse one iota of lust (young Cary Grant). Some are beautiful AND lustworthy (Ewan Macgregor), and some just lustworthy (Daniel Craig). YLustMV

ION, Fox News "war games" the coming civil war

That's the context for this Glenn Beck "War Games" show on Fox News this week -- one promoted, with some mild and obligatory caveats, by Michelle Malkin's Hot Air. In the segment below, he convened a panel that includes former CIA officer Michael Scheuer and Ret. U.S. Army Sgt. Major Tim Strong. They discuss a coming "civil war" led by American "Bubba" militias -- Beck says he "believes we're on this road" -- and they contemplate whether the U.S. military would follow the President's orders to subdue civil unrest or would instead join with "the people" in defense of their Constitutional rights against the Government (they agree that the U.S. military would be with "the people"):

I'm curious -- what is it that you find attractive about her? Because to my eyes she's so very plain and creepy, but I read lots of praise about her appearance. So -- given that everyone's MMV (I will *never* understand the appeal of, say, Sean Bean, or the new James Bond guy), what features/characteristics make Tilda Swinton so appealing?

She's got this intensity about her, and this sort of knowingness to her smiles. And, wow, her hair. And have I mentioned her voice? I haven't. Her voice. Yes.

She's just... guh!

Signed, please don't ask me how many times I've seen Orlando.

Domenic West ought to be ugly...his face isn't symnetrical and I feel that individual features might be the wrong size, but when he smirks or raises those eyebrows, he kind of pwns me. And I'm not sure why I think Denis Leary is hot, besides the people on his show doing the horizontal bop in so many(for TV) improbable ways. But I'd totally hit that. And I've had to explain my Munch-lust to too many twelve-year-old Meloni fangirls"Ew...he's so OLD!" to fail to participate in this conversation. Funny is hot. But not always, or I'd want Bill Hicks, too. Which I don't. Maybe it would feel like lusting after Moses, though, crushing on Bill Hicks.

Some men and women look beautiful to me, as in they are lovely things to look at, but they don't arouse one iota of lust (young Cary Grant).

I'm that way about Hugh Jackman.

They discuss a coming "civil war" led by American "Bubba" militias -- Beck says he "believes we're on this road" -- and they contemplate whether the U.S. military would follow the President's orders to subdue civil unrest or would instead join with "the people" in defense of their Constitutional rights against the Government (they agree that the U.S. military would be with "the people")

My days of not taking Glen Beck seriously are certainly coming to a middle.