Well, other bands know more than three chords. Your professional bands can play up to six, sometimes seven, completely different chords.

Oz ,'Storyteller'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Calli - Feb 22, 2009 7:59:26 am PST #7392 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I just tried Trader Joe's creamy tomato soup. Very good, and probably the healthiest thing I've eaten this week.


megan walker - Feb 22, 2009 8:04:00 am PST #7393 of 30000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

A friend of mine does professional decluttering. I'm not sure how much she charges.

I would love to know.


Barb - Feb 22, 2009 8:10:58 am PST #7394 of 30000
“Not dead yet!”

I went to the gym and worked out for an hour.

< is grumpy but virtuous>

Came home and had leftover red beans and rice, this time with the added nummy goodness of Andouille sausage.

I can haz nap?


beekaytee - Feb 22, 2009 8:20:03 am PST #7395 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

Declutterers/packers charge depending on their area but I can tell you that my minimum charge for the DC region was $45 per hour. And nobody blinked. I also wrote it into my contract that there was an extra charge ($20 ) per hour, if the client chose to 'work with me'.

Typical speech: "If you let me put my head down and plow through this, it will take less than half the time. Nothing will be thrown away without your approval and everything will be categorized in an easily understood system. At the end, there will be a pile of things with questions attached to them. Be prepared to spend about 20 minutes answering those questions. We will finalize all decisions before I leave and you will be good to go!"

Also, do NOT buy any storage containers/widgets until I am done. Only then will we know what you really need.

Too many people start the other way 'round and set themselves up to fail.


SailAweigh - Feb 22, 2009 8:36:44 am PST #7396 of 30000
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Too many people start the other way 'round and set themselves up to fail

No shit. I bought plastic sleeves for all my comics and boxes to store them, then they just sat there until my son came up for Christmas. He was so bored, he stuffed all the sleeves for me. Until then, all they were was more clutter.


megan walker - Feb 22, 2009 8:37:53 am PST #7397 of 30000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I also wrote it into my contract that there was an extra charge ($20 ) per hour, if the client chose to 'work with me'.

I love this.

If I could do it full-time, decluttering would be a dream job.


Scrappy - Feb 22, 2009 8:47:50 am PST #7398 of 30000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I LOVE getting rid of stuff. I always look at it as buying more room for myself. Space is a luxury. I also really like things getting used and loved, so cool stuff which does nothing but sit in a closet or a drawer can go to someone who will use it. Good for me, good for them, good for the stuff!


askye - Feb 22, 2009 9:02:02 am PST #7399 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

Mom has a Rule of 3 for cleaning, every day she has 3 things she's going to do for the day and then during the day, (like say during a commerical break on tv) she tries to pick up and put away three things.


beekaytee - Feb 22, 2009 9:29:02 am PST #7400 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

The additional charge had a practical motivation in addition to being a 'hassle tax'. Working with a clutterer who thinks they want order is torturous. A LOT more therapy goes into those hours and my therapy clients pay alot more! So I found myself doing hard physical labor PLUS therapy for much less money. Not a good equation for me.

Only one client ever took me up on that and it was...as predicted...hard.

I love the rule of three erika. I should adopt that.

And Scrappy is me with regards to letting stuff get used by people who will use it.


Kathy A - Feb 22, 2009 9:37:13 am PST #7401 of 30000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Watching "Clean Sweep" on TLC is almost painful, especially when they have people who refuse to let things go. The organizers on that show have to go through so much therapy on camera in between trying to clean out (usually) 50-70 percent of the stuff in these people's rooms.