Having three is more than enough to send me over the edge, so.

I'm pretty comfortable in my McJudgey chair on this one, actually.

If I'm actually about the choice thing, then I have to understand when people make choices I wouldn't.

Yes.

And selective reduction is a hard call I wouldn't wish on anybody.

Happy Birthday, Anne W!

To be clear, I completely get that selective reduction is a choice that I wouldn't want to make, and that every woman should be able to deny, if that's her belief.

I'm questioning why she wanted more kids in the first place, when she's supported by her parents, and apparently bankrupt. Also questioning the doctor/clinic who transferred that many embryos, if that is actually the way it happened.

Because money problems come and go but you have your kids forever?

My Grandparents had eight children. They'd have had more if they could have. Its less common than it used to be, but some people really want a large family.

As far as the doctors -- that's some ethical shit that bears professional examination from peers fo sho.

Thanks, belle. I may hit you up on the advice. Apparently, I have four of the suckers, all of the them 4+cm, so obviously, I'm not a big fan of waiting around for Mother Nature to take care of them while they continue to grow.

With Clown Car Uterus Woman, a couple other articles I came across where the grandfather was interviewed, he mentioned that they had a huge house elsewhere where they would all be moving that no one would be able to find.

Plus, he may be going back to Iraq to work as a contractor. So, mom, grandma, and fourteen kids. Oy.

My grandparents on my mother's side had 11 kids (including two sets of twins) and my grandparents on my father's side had about 8, I think. But they were all dairy farmers, and needed backup kids to replace any that got ran through the thresher.

OK, I'm joking - I'm not sure if they had threshers.

Why? Why are the kittens riding the Roomba?

If I were a kitten, I would ride the Roomba.

I am kind of attracted to the idea of being a kitten. I think I'd be a grey tabby. Short-haired.

Also questioning the doctor/clinic who transferred that many embryos, if that is actually the way it happened.

There are too many variables and unknowns to us. We're operating on the assumption that it was indeed IVF (which is spendy and requires lots of doctory intervention) and not other fertility treatments. Since they never disclosed to Kaiser where the treatments occurred, we are also assuming it happened in the US.

And I think lack of disclosure is (1) weird and the fact that Kaiser didn't press was also (2) fucked up.

I guess what I'm saying is that I doubt that it was actually IVF at all. From my recollection and that of others who have had the treatment, to harvest 8 eggs would be unusual.