To be clear, I completely get that selective reduction is a choice that I wouldn't want to make, and that every woman should be able to deny, if that's her belief.

I'm questioning why she wanted more kids in the first place, when she's supported by her parents, and apparently bankrupt. Also questioning the doctor/clinic who transferred that many embryos, if that is actually the way it happened.

Because money problems come and go but you have your kids forever?

My Grandparents had eight children. They'd have had more if they could have. Its less common than it used to be, but some people really want a large family.

As far as the doctors -- that's some ethical shit that bears professional examination from peers fo sho.

Thanks, belle. I may hit you up on the advice. Apparently, I have four of the suckers, all of the them 4+cm, so obviously, I'm not a big fan of waiting around for Mother Nature to take care of them while they continue to grow.

With Clown Car Uterus Woman, a couple other articles I came across where the grandfather was interviewed, he mentioned that they had a huge house elsewhere where they would all be moving that no one would be able to find.

Plus, he may be going back to Iraq to work as a contractor. So, mom, grandma, and fourteen kids. Oy.

My grandparents on my mother's side had 11 kids (including two sets of twins) and my grandparents on my father's side had about 8, I think. But they were all dairy farmers, and needed backup kids to replace any that got ran through the thresher.

OK, I'm joking - I'm not sure if they had threshers.

Why? Why are the kittens riding the Roomba?

If I were a kitten, I would ride the Roomba.

I am kind of attracted to the idea of being a kitten. I think I'd be a grey tabby. Short-haired.

Also questioning the doctor/clinic who transferred that many embryos, if that is actually the way it happened.

There are too many variables and unknowns to us. We're operating on the assumption that it was indeed IVF (which is spendy and requires lots of doctory intervention) and not other fertility treatments. Since they never disclosed to Kaiser where the treatments occurred, we are also assuming it happened in the US.

And I think lack of disclosure is (1) weird and the fact that Kaiser didn't press was also (2) fucked up.

I guess what I'm saying is that I doubt that it was actually IVF at all. From my recollection and that of others who have had the treatment, to harvest 8 eggs would be unusual.

Why are the kittens riding the Roomba?

Because the dog fell off?

Sometimes I don't know why I watch tennis. Especially when I'm sure my man won't win. As I usually am. And there's no way I even recorded the whole thing, at the rate this is going. It's been an hour and they haven't finished the first set yet.

yeah, my grandfather was one of 12 because his apparently lazy dad (what I've been told, not my opinion) wanted continuous farm labor. I still think it's irresponsible given the amount of kids in the world that need parents, given the overpopulation of the planet, and if you are asking for government assistance.

plays paddy-cake with Amy.

Why are the kittens riding the Roomba?

I'm guessing a human intervened by putting all the kittens on the Roomba first. Note that as each kitten falls off the Roomba, it does not attempt to get back on.

I mean, sure, this is progress, but the world really need more cats who intentionally ride Roombas.