Now I have a brazilian things to get done today, and I am in NO MOOD

I'm thinking, "Is anyone ever in the MOOD for a brazilian?" A Brazilian, sure, but not a brazilian.

I swear I saw Loni Anderson at the ER yesterday. Who famous looks like her? It was definitely a famous woman.

Oh, I like this phrase:

"And this kind of multiple plethora excess of babies is too much of a good thing. And it's rather a slap in the face of the whole profession, simply because it's going in the wrong direction."

More:

"And it's unfortunate, because the media pick up on this and seem to go, I think, Arthur Kaplan from UPenn (University of Pennsylvania) said the media tend to go goo-goo gaga over this and, in fact, it's really a bit of a medical disaster."

"Had she walked into a fertility clinic and said, 'Listen, I've got other children, the oldest seven, the youngest two,' co-anchor Julie Chen asked Tucker, "is there any ethical responsibility on the clinic's part to say, 'I'm not going to treat you,' or, 'You know what? This is not a good idea?" '

"Suffice to say," Tucker responded, "I've been in this business for 25 years now. And it's pretty much standard practice in all clinics to have some form of psychological evaluation of the patient. Also, their sociological circumstances. And I'm stunned, actually, that a clinic would proceed to treat a patient in this circumstance and then even to get to perhaps the transfer of embryos and ponder the transfer in, I believe, the lady's mid-30s, a 35-year-old -- she should be receiving two embryos, maximum, as a transfer into her uterus to have had eight transferred is somewhat -- is extremely irresponsible."

eesh ... octuplets! my reproductive system kind of winced at that. The doctor did say it was possible she'd taken fertility drugs and then gotten pregnant the old-fashioned way.

A few years ago there was a multiple-birth in this area (sextuplets, I think) and the woman had gone the fertility drug/IVF route; they'd implanted several embryos and all of them took, unexpectedly. The doctors had recommended selective abortion because of fears about the mother's health and the potential babies' ... but the woman decided it was God's will that she have all the babies and who was she to go against that. And then someone pointed out that she'd gotten pregnant through science, when she couldn't naturally ... which never got answered.

I am just going to name myself Judgey McJudgerPants and sit in the corner of JudgerVille.

Yeah, I love e-filing.

Me too! I filed yesterday. The state accepted my return but I doubt that I'll be paid my refund before Sunday, when all the money from the state is shut off.

Do we know for sure that it was IVF or is it just what the mom of the woman says? There are plenty of people I know in my life who keep saying I had IVF, when I didn't because there is an inability to tease out the difference between IVF, AI, injectible meds, chlomid, etc. unless you are involved in the day to day. Which is stupid, because the processes are really different.

That many multiples seems more of an injectible meds issue, and that would be much cheaper than IVF ($1000 vs. $10,000). And easier to get one's hand on than IVF treatment.

Apropos of pretty much nothing (well, except "Does that seem right to you?"): I only this year realized that Jubal Early was a real person. Le sigh. I am large with reference-missing.

I am just going to name myself Judgey McJudgerPants and sit in the corner of JudgerVille.

Me, too. I'm just enraged that they let this woman and her docs do this! It's nuts! I realize this is probably a personal issue with me because my twin sister is having trouble conceiving and has put off IVF due to worries about her husband getting laid off.

If Clown Car Uterus Lady gets good press or free shit, I'm going to go ballistic.

In other, happy news:

Happy Birthday, Anne!

I'm glad the procedure went well, Barb. I had one of those once and it sucked.

Cheerios:

Gud, I've e-filed for several years and I just keep the forms filed in case of an audit. You're really on the honor system. I love the process, though!

I guess I'm not judgy about this at all because we actually don't really have any information except what the mother said and I think it's too easy to not get it.

Also, I don't think she wanted eight more necessarily. What she didn't want to do is selectively reduce and, given one's religious stance, I can respect that as it is indeed her body. If I'm actually about the choice thing, then I have to understand when people make choices I wouldn't.

I'm sort of in awe that she lives at home with her parents in a small house in Whittier! And that there is no talk of Dad.

I guess it's too hard to really get my self into a lather because there is so much I don't know about the situation.

oh Barb - I meant to say that what I had done earlier this year was the removal of one of those. Best ofluck and if this is new to you, I am happy to answer things via email.