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Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Barb - Jan 30, 2009 5:53:49 am PST #4236 of 30000
“Not dead yet!”

It gets better. The family filed for bankruptcy a year-and-a-half ago. [link]

I'm just... stunned.

::clearly also judgy::


Gudanov - Jan 30, 2009 5:56:05 am PST #4237 of 30000
Coding and Sleeping

I don't know why e-filing makes me skittish, but I always use TaxCut online and then print out the forms and mail everything in.

I want to e-file because it will make me less skittish than mailing.


Amy - Jan 30, 2009 5:57:04 am PST #4238 of 30000
Because books.

I just can't imagine 8 babies.

Apparently her 6 other children are all under the age of 7, too. There's something seriously messed up with this woman.

I was going to say, if you're that driven to have more children, and you have the resources for a family that big, then ADOPT. There are plenty of kids out there who need homes and families.

But Barb's comment negates that, so. I got nothing. If they filed for bankruptcy, how on earth did they pay for IVF?


tommyrot - Jan 30, 2009 5:57:49 am PST #4239 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

It gets better. The family filed for bankruptcy a year-and-a-half ago. [link]

So... her plan was to make money by writing a book in the I-just-had-a-shitload-of-babies--oh-the-wackiness genre?


Sophia Brooks - Jan 30, 2009 5:59:57 am PST #4240 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Now I have a brazilian things to get done today, and I am in NO MOOD.

I read that as you having to get a brazilian (wax) done today!


§ ita § - Jan 30, 2009 6:01:34 am PST #4241 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Now I have a brazilian things to get done today, and I am in NO MOOD

I'm thinking, "Is anyone ever in the MOOD for a brazilian?" A Brazilian, sure, but not a brazilian.

I swear I saw Loni Anderson at the ER yesterday. Who famous looks like her? It was definitely a famous woman.


tommyrot - Jan 30, 2009 6:01:38 am PST #4242 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Oh, I like this phrase:

"And this kind of multiple plethora excess of babies is too much of a good thing. And it's rather a slap in the face of the whole profession, simply because it's going in the wrong direction."

More:

"And it's unfortunate, because the media pick up on this and seem to go, I think, Arthur Kaplan from UPenn (University of Pennsylvania) said the media tend to go goo-goo gaga over this and, in fact, it's really a bit of a medical disaster."

"Had she walked into a fertility clinic and said, 'Listen, I've got other children, the oldest seven, the youngest two,' co-anchor Julie Chen asked Tucker, "is there any ethical responsibility on the clinic's part to say, 'I'm not going to treat you,' or, 'You know what? This is not a good idea?" '

"Suffice to say," Tucker responded, "I've been in this business for 25 years now. And it's pretty much standard practice in all clinics to have some form of psychological evaluation of the patient. Also, their sociological circumstances. And I'm stunned, actually, that a clinic would proceed to treat a patient in this circumstance and then even to get to perhaps the transfer of embryos and ponder the transfer in, I believe, the lady's mid-30s, a 35-year-old -- she should be receiving two embryos, maximum, as a transfer into her uterus to have had eight transferred is somewhat -- is extremely irresponsible."


Toddson - Jan 30, 2009 6:06:53 am PST #4243 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

eesh ... octuplets! my reproductive system kind of winced at that. The doctor did say it was possible she'd taken fertility drugs and then gotten pregnant the old-fashioned way.

A few years ago there was a multiple-birth in this area (sextuplets, I think) and the woman had gone the fertility drug/IVF route; they'd implanted several embryos and all of them took, unexpectedly. The doctors had recommended selective abortion because of fears about the mother's health and the potential babies' ... but the woman decided it was God's will that she have all the babies and who was she to go against that. And then someone pointed out that she'd gotten pregnant through science, when she couldn't naturally ... which never got answered.


msbelle - Jan 30, 2009 6:07:00 am PST #4244 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I am just going to name myself Judgey McJudgerPants and sit in the corner of JudgerVille.


Kat - Jan 30, 2009 6:10:31 am PST #4245 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Yeah, I love e-filing.

Me too! I filed yesterday. The state accepted my return but I doubt that I'll be paid my refund before Sunday, when all the money from the state is shut off.

Do we know for sure that it was IVF or is it just what the mom of the woman says? There are plenty of people I know in my life who keep saying I had IVF, when I didn't because there is an inability to tease out the difference between IVF, AI, injectible meds, chlomid, etc. unless you are involved in the day to day. Which is stupid, because the processes are really different.

That many multiples seems more of an injectible meds issue, and that would be much cheaper than IVF ($1000 vs. $10,000). And easier to get one's hand on than IVF treatment.