But? There's always a but. When this is over, can we have a big 'but' moratorium?

Fred ,'Smile Time'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Jan 30, 2009 3:47:24 am PST #4198 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I guess I just don't understand wanting more kids when you have six.

I can understand wanting one more kid. At a time.

But I can't comprehend any circumstances where anyone in their right mind would want eight newborn babies at once.


flea - Jan 30, 2009 3:47:26 am PST #4199 of 30000
information libertarian

According to the woman's mother, the pregnancy was the result of IVF, too: [link] People wanting kids may or may not be crazy, but the doctor who did the IVF - the woman is under 35 and has 6 kids - why would you transfer more than 1 or 2 embryos? Doctors are supposed to have ethics and guidelines about this stuff.


Sparky1 - Jan 30, 2009 3:52:27 am PST #4200 of 30000
Librarian Warlord

why would you transfer more than 1 or 2 embryos?

I think there's still a question of whether or not the embryos will stick, so they often transfer more than 1. (A friend had a reduction after IVF from 3 to 2.)

But six seems above and beyond.


JenP - Jan 30, 2009 3:53:16 am PST #4201 of 30000

Happy Birthday, Anne!


Anne W. - Jan 30, 2009 3:55:03 am PST #4202 of 30000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Thank you for the birthday wishes, all!

As of today, I am officially in my forties. It doesn't feel as momentous (for good or for ill) as I thought it would.


amych - Jan 30, 2009 3:58:50 am PST #4203 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Happy birthday, Anne!


Ginger - Jan 30, 2009 4:02:40 am PST #4204 of 30000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

My DH and I were discussing what we'd name octuplets.

Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, Comet, Cupid, Donder and Blitzen.

I'm judgey. I think it's wrong, in the same way that driving three Hummers is wrong.


Sue - Jan 30, 2009 4:06:28 am PST #4205 of 30000
hip deep in pie

Happy Birthday Anne!


Emily - Jan 30, 2009 4:09:59 am PST #4206 of 30000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

I thought they generally stuck in bunches.


flea - Jan 30, 2009 4:20:00 am PST #4207 of 30000
information libertarian

My understanding of current IVF best practices - and I am happy to be corrected, since I have no personal experience and am drawing mainly from blog-reading and book-reading - is that if the woman is under 35 and has a good fertility history (both true here, assuming this woman's six existing children are children she gave birth to) you transfer two embryos, and even consider transferring only one. To get 8 babies, probably at least 4 embryos were transferred (which would mean 4 cases of spontaneous twinning), and very likely more.

I was very surprised to hear this was an IVF case. Super-multiples have tended to be from fertility drugs (i.e. stimulating the ovaries resulting in multiple ovulations and multiple fertilizations - and even in those cases, the doctors are supposed to monitor the number of ovulations and not fertilize if, say, 8 eggs were released.)