Giles: I'm sure we're all perfectly safe. Dawn: We're safe. Right. And Spike built a robot Buffy to play checkers with. Tara: It sounded convincing when I thought it.

'Dirty Girls'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Emily - Jan 30, 2009 4:09:59 am PST #4206 of 30000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

I thought they generally stuck in bunches.


flea - Jan 30, 2009 4:20:00 am PST #4207 of 30000
information libertarian

My understanding of current IVF best practices - and I am happy to be corrected, since I have no personal experience and am drawing mainly from blog-reading and book-reading - is that if the woman is under 35 and has a good fertility history (both true here, assuming this woman's six existing children are children she gave birth to) you transfer two embryos, and even consider transferring only one. To get 8 babies, probably at least 4 embryos were transferred (which would mean 4 cases of spontaneous twinning), and very likely more.

I was very surprised to hear this was an IVF case. Super-multiples have tended to be from fertility drugs (i.e. stimulating the ovaries resulting in multiple ovulations and multiple fertilizations - and even in those cases, the doctors are supposed to monitor the number of ovulations and not fertilize if, say, 8 eggs were released.)


CaBil - Jan 30, 2009 4:30:14 am PST #4208 of 30000
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Happy birthday Anne!


Lee - Jan 30, 2009 4:32:46 am PST #4209 of 30000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Happy Birthday Anne!


Jesse - Jan 30, 2009 4:35:58 am PST #4210 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I just can't imagine 8 babies. I mean, I can imagine it, since I have worked in a daycare center, but I can't imagine doing it at home.

On the "best practices" front, the article linked says:

Under the guidelines of the American Society for Reproductive Medicine, U.S. doctors normally would not implant more than two embryos at a time in a woman under the age of 35. After that age it is more difficult to become pregnant. The mother of the octuplets is believed to be 33, based on available public records.

and

Hospital officials said the woman came to Kaiser already in her 12th week of pregnancy. They did not say where she received the fertility treatment.


msbelle - Jan 30, 2009 4:38:46 am PST #4211 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Sue, I am not crazy - PBJT is the awesome.

Also judgy, but that is not a surprise.


Amy - Jan 30, 2009 4:39:22 am PST #4212 of 30000
Because books.

Happy, happy birthday, Anne! Have cake and much happiness today!


Sophia Brooks - Jan 30, 2009 4:44:55 am PST #4213 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Happy Birthday Anne!

I REALLY want to go to the Tenement museum, as I am obsessed with tenements. The website has a really awesome virtual tour under "Play"


Sue - Jan 30, 2009 4:45:36 am PST #4214 of 30000
hip deep in pie

Sue, I am not crazy - PBJT is the awesome.

Sarameg called you crazy on that front. I am with you on PBJT.


Jesse - Jan 30, 2009 4:48:00 am PST #4215 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I REALLY want to go to the Tenement museum, as I am obsessed with tenements. The website has a really awesome virtual tour under "Play"

Come to NYC and we'll totally go!!