Ugh. Nice to know they think I should be second class citizen. Oh well, this is why I never talk about religion with family.
And, as usual, just about every one of his examples of America's "Judeo-Christian" heritage is actually just Christian.
I am not having sex with Spike! But I'm starting to think that you might be.
Buffy ,'Dirty Girls'
Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Hil R. - Jul 09, 2009 7:02:47 am PDT #28223 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
Trudy Booth - Jul 09, 2009 7:04:16 am PDT #28224 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Look, we're not blaming you for the death of our Lord. Just be happy with that.
Frankenbuddha - Jul 09, 2009 7:07:05 am PDT #28225 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Hippo birdies, sara.
Hil R. - Jul 09, 2009 7:09:53 am PDT #28226 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
I particularly liked the bit where he mentioned a Supreme Court case that said that the US was a Christian nation with tone and phrasing that clearly said, "See, not just Judeo-Christian, but just Christian! Even better!"
amych - Jul 09, 2009 7:10:13 am PDT #28227 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
And, as usual, just about every one of his examples of America's "Judeo-Christian" heritage is actually just Christian.
Of course. "Judeo-Christian" actually means one or more of:
1) We're just the same, so STFU about how we should recognize your stupid hard-to-spell holidays.
2) We're just the same, so we all hate the muslims, right?
3) You people know perfectly well that Jesus really is the messiah, you're just being stubborn about admitting it.
(why yes, I hate the term, are my issues showing?)
Jessica - Jul 09, 2009 7:12:51 am PDT #28228 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Historically, "Judeo-Christian" means "Okay we're still mad about the whole killing Jesus thing, but at least you're not Communists. You're *not* Communists, right?"
Hil R. - Jul 09, 2009 7:13:15 am PDT #28229 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
(I have the same issues with that term, amych.)
Except you missed one meaning.
4. Jesus was Jewish, so Christians really are Jewish too! Anything that's changed about the Jewish religion since 2000 years ago? Oh, that's not real Judaism.
Hil R. - Jul 09, 2009 7:14:47 am PDT #28230 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
Most uses of "Judeo-Christian" from the fifties that I've seen seem to be the exact same people who would have said "America is a Christian nation" ten years earlier, but realized that didn't sound so good in a post-Holocaust world, so they added the "Judeo" to that sentence without actually changing what they meant.
amych - Jul 09, 2009 7:14:56 am PDT #28231 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
4. Jesus was Jewish, so Christians really are Jewish too! Anything that's changed about the Jewish religion since 2000 years ago? Oh, that's not real Judaism.
Yes! Also known as, "so, are you, like, a Pharisee?"
Hil R. - Jul 09, 2009 7:15:54 am PDT #28232 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
Yes! Also known as, "so, are you, like, a Pharisee?"
I'd answer "Yes."