I particularly liked the bit where he mentioned a Supreme Court case that said that the US was a Christian nation with tone and phrasing that clearly said, "See, not just Judeo-Christian, but just Christian! Even better!"
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Hil R. - Jul 09, 2009 7:09:53 am PDT #28226 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
amych - Jul 09, 2009 7:10:13 am PDT #28227 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
And, as usual, just about every one of his examples of America's "Judeo-Christian" heritage is actually just Christian.
Of course. "Judeo-Christian" actually means one or more of:
1) We're just the same, so STFU about how we should recognize your stupid hard-to-spell holidays.
2) We're just the same, so we all hate the muslims, right?
3) You people know perfectly well that Jesus really is the messiah, you're just being stubborn about admitting it.
(why yes, I hate the term, are my issues showing?)
Jessica - Jul 09, 2009 7:12:51 am PDT #28228 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Historically, "Judeo-Christian" means "Okay we're still mad about the whole killing Jesus thing, but at least you're not Communists. You're *not* Communists, right?"
Hil R. - Jul 09, 2009 7:13:15 am PDT #28229 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
(I have the same issues with that term, amych.)
Except you missed one meaning.
4. Jesus was Jewish, so Christians really are Jewish too! Anything that's changed about the Jewish religion since 2000 years ago? Oh, that's not real Judaism.
Hil R. - Jul 09, 2009 7:14:47 am PDT #28230 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
Most uses of "Judeo-Christian" from the fifties that I've seen seem to be the exact same people who would have said "America is a Christian nation" ten years earlier, but realized that didn't sound so good in a post-Holocaust world, so they added the "Judeo" to that sentence without actually changing what they meant.
amych - Jul 09, 2009 7:14:56 am PDT #28231 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
4. Jesus was Jewish, so Christians really are Jewish too! Anything that's changed about the Jewish religion since 2000 years ago? Oh, that's not real Judaism.
Yes! Also known as, "so, are you, like, a Pharisee?"
Hil R. - Jul 09, 2009 7:15:54 am PDT #28232 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
Yes! Also known as, "so, are you, like, a Pharisee?"
I'd answer "Yes."
Gudanov - Jul 09, 2009 7:17:04 am PDT #28233 of 30000
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Okay we're still mad about the whole killing Jesus thing
I've never understood that. Wasn't the death of Jesus supposed to happen? To me, it always seemed like blaming the hammer if someone smashes a window with it. That doesn't even get to the point of blaming a whole group for the acts of a few. But then, you know, agnostic (or atheist depending on your definitions) so my perspective is different.
tommyrot - Jul 09, 2009 7:18:00 am PDT #28234 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
I've never understood that. Wasn't the death of Jesus supposed to happen? To me, it always seemed like blaming the hammer if someone smashes a window with it.
Yeah, except that according to Christians, the window getting smashed was a good and necessary thing.
Jesse - Jul 09, 2009 7:18:08 am PDT #28235 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I've never understood that. Wasn't the death of Jesus supposed to happen?
Ditto. And isn't it the whole basis for the religion? I mean, seriously.