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Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Jul 05, 2009 4:48:44 pm PDT #27480 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

20% is the default in NYC unless it's automatically calculated by the restaurant (for large parties, in which case it's usuall 18%).

If you tip less than 20% your server will likely assume you're an ignorant tourist or a bigwig in the Republican party. (Tips when the RNC was in town a few years back were, by all accounts, offensively low. Because, you know, nothing says "I have three mansions and a Senate seat" like handing your waitress $5 on a $100 meal and calling her "sweetheart.")


sarameg - Jul 05, 2009 4:49:01 pm PDT #27481 of 30000

I just tend towards 20% of total, tax included, knowing what waitstaff makes.


Hil R. - Jul 05, 2009 4:49:37 pm PDT #27482 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Here is something I've never really known: is it 20% of the total with or without tax?

Without tax.


Polter-Cow - Jul 05, 2009 4:50:55 pm PDT #27483 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Intriguing. Guess I've been overtipping. Which is better than undertipping, at least.


DavidS - Jul 05, 2009 4:51:10 pm PDT #27484 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

is it 20% of the total with or without tax?

Without tax. Though I routinely just do the easiest calculation, which is move the decimal place over on the total bill and double it to get 20%.


Juliebird - Jul 05, 2009 4:51:40 pm PDT #27485 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I've learned to tip 20%, perhaps because my gramps was in the restaurant business as are both my brothers. What I don't get is my mother's newfound insistence to not tip on the tax. I haven't done the math, but I can't see it being that big of a difference (for smaller bills, at least).

When dissatisfied, I give 15% and throw in whatever pennies I have as a chin flick (it makes me feel like not total shit when all I want to do is leave the pennies).

eta that okay, it seems like it's not New new, but her adamantness is.


Sophia Brooks - Jul 05, 2009 4:52:15 pm PDT #27486 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

In your dads' defense, I am pretty sure 10% used to be standard, and 15% was good.


sarameg - Jul 05, 2009 4:53:02 pm PDT #27487 of 30000

Oh, it was. He just can't get with NOW.


Jesse - Jul 05, 2009 5:09:05 pm PDT #27488 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I would never have thought not to tip on the tax if it weren't for the internet.


Trudy Booth - Jul 05, 2009 5:13:29 pm PDT #27489 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

20% is definitely the NYC norm.

Wasn't 18% the NYC norm thirty seconds ago?

Guys, I'm not going any higher than 20. Seriously. Tip creep has got to stop somewhere. Even in NYC. I tend to over-tip anyway, but we need to leave me some room to do that.

I mean, I thought I over-tipped. Man, I'm losing all my over-tip cred. And, no, I don't tip on the tax.

Are we just talking restaurants? Or taxis and hair dressers too?