We have to see the chimp playing hockey! That's hilarious! The ice is so slippery, and, and monkeys are all irrational. We have to see this!

Anya ,'Bring On The Night'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hil R. - Jul 05, 2009 4:49:37 pm PDT #27482 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Here is something I've never really known: is it 20% of the total with or without tax?

Without tax.


Polter-Cow - Jul 05, 2009 4:50:55 pm PDT #27483 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Intriguing. Guess I've been overtipping. Which is better than undertipping, at least.


DavidS - Jul 05, 2009 4:51:10 pm PDT #27484 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

is it 20% of the total with or without tax?

Without tax. Though I routinely just do the easiest calculation, which is move the decimal place over on the total bill and double it to get 20%.


Juliebird - Jul 05, 2009 4:51:40 pm PDT #27485 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I've learned to tip 20%, perhaps because my gramps was in the restaurant business as are both my brothers. What I don't get is my mother's newfound insistence to not tip on the tax. I haven't done the math, but I can't see it being that big of a difference (for smaller bills, at least).

When dissatisfied, I give 15% and throw in whatever pennies I have as a chin flick (it makes me feel like not total shit when all I want to do is leave the pennies).

eta that okay, it seems like it's not New new, but her adamantness is.


Sophia Brooks - Jul 05, 2009 4:52:15 pm PDT #27486 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

In your dads' defense, I am pretty sure 10% used to be standard, and 15% was good.


sarameg - Jul 05, 2009 4:53:02 pm PDT #27487 of 30000

Oh, it was. He just can't get with NOW.


Jesse - Jul 05, 2009 5:09:05 pm PDT #27488 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I would never have thought not to tip on the tax if it weren't for the internet.


Trudy Booth - Jul 05, 2009 5:13:29 pm PDT #27489 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

20% is definitely the NYC norm.

Wasn't 18% the NYC norm thirty seconds ago?

Guys, I'm not going any higher than 20. Seriously. Tip creep has got to stop somewhere. Even in NYC. I tend to over-tip anyway, but we need to leave me some room to do that.

I mean, I thought I over-tipped. Man, I'm losing all my over-tip cred. And, no, I don't tip on the tax.

Are we just talking restaurants? Or taxis and hair dressers too?


Kat - Jul 05, 2009 5:17:16 pm PDT #27490 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I've also heard you don't have to tip on drinks for regular table service (not cocktail). I just tip on 20% of the whole bill. I tend to overtip, but I often have a toddler and overtipping is my way of saying, "Sorry about the mess."


Jesse - Jul 05, 2009 5:17:18 pm PDT #27491 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I confess that I don't actually leave 20% a lot of the time -- I round down. Like if the bill is $52, I'd leave $10.