I didn't watch Warren's speech or Lowery's. If prayer in public school is a violation of church/state separation, we shouldn't have it at Inauguration either. Period.
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Jessica - Jan 20, 2009 8:56:12 am PST #2417 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Jessica - Jan 20, 2009 8:57:19 am PST #2418 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
the Lord's Prayer is what rubbed me the wrong way, because it's just so expressly and explicitly Christian -- as opposed to praying to god in general and just wrapping up with the "father, son, holy spirit" or similar.
"Father, son, holy spirit" is also pretty explicitly Christian.
Jesse - Jan 20, 2009 8:58:05 am PST #2419 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
By the by, here's a blog post that includes discussion of the "if you're black, get back" thing: [link]
I wish I had taken today off! I don't want to do work now!!
Hil R. - Jan 20, 2009 8:58:57 am PST #2420 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
I'm going to go get dressed and wander around outside, see what the crowd is like.
javachik - Jan 20, 2009 8:58:59 am PST #2421 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.
I think everyone is totally forgetting that God couldn't be at the Inauguration.
He's with Kurt Warner, at the Cardinals' practice.
Steph L. - Jan 20, 2009 8:59:37 am PST #2422 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism
I wish I had taken today off! I don't want to do work now!!
Yeah, I was hoping for an executive order to take the rest of the day off.
Jesse - Jan 20, 2009 8:59:43 am PST #2423 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
"Father, son, holy spirit" is also pretty explicitly Christian.
Absolutely. I am mostly reacting to the relative amount of "real estate" given in the prayer. I don't think there's any way you invite a Christian minister to pray and expect that he's not giving a Christian prayer.
msbelle - Jan 20, 2009 8:59:53 am PST #2424 of 30000
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I'd love the day when we could have religious figures present or not and have it be no big deal, but not REQUIRED. Me, I'd like a circle of leaders from many faiths as well as a non-faith humanist all wishing me well before I took the oath, but you know, I'd never want to be a politician.
amych - Jan 20, 2009 9:00:42 am PST #2425 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
Hmm. See, I wasn't bothered at all by the Lord's Prayer -- I wasn't expecting him to do the don't-name-anything-too-specific dance that a lot of ecumenical prayers suffer from. But the Jesus in all the languages bit rubbed me very wrong, and felt like the opposite of inclusive. Or rather, instead of being inclusive by trying to bring in everyone's traditions, it felt inclusive by subsuming everyone's culture into Christianity.
(And, to be clear, that's a felt-to-me thing, and not a slam on others' reactions or an attempt to read Warren's intentions.)
Jessica - Jan 20, 2009 9:00:50 am PST #2426 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Yeah, I was hoping for an executive order to take the rest of the day off.
Hey now, Obama had to go to work today too!