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Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Jun 05, 2009 5:10:21 pm PDT #22990 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

And she has a pension which means she does not have to save for her old age.

I'm assuming that's the gov't pension and therefore stable, but pension != safe. Half of my Dad's was gone 2 years after he retired. oops, sorry, you lose that.


Trudy Booth - Jun 05, 2009 5:13:52 pm PDT #22991 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'd assume its a government pension,yeah.

Oh, I agree, Amy, it's not nothin'.


Hil R. - Jun 05, 2009 5:23:29 pm PDT #22992 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Her salary is over 150,000 per year.

For New York, really, that isn't huge. It's in the range of not having to worry too much about money, but still way below, say, Real Housewives territory. That's upper-middle class for New York, I'd say.


Trudy Booth - Jun 05, 2009 5:25:39 pm PDT #22993 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I think, before everything went to hell, first year associates in large firms were starting at about $120,000.


Kathy A - Jun 05, 2009 5:25:56 pm PDT #22994 of 30000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I read somewhere today that her reported savings is $32,000, and she has $15,000 in credit card bills and an outstanding $15,000 dental bill (ouch!). And in her neighborhood, $1 million will get you a 1000 sq. ft. condo.


brenda m - Jun 05, 2009 5:28:19 pm PDT #22995 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

But ... I think the point was not that her million-dollar property was especially big or luxurious, just that she *has* assets worth a million dollars, right?

No, the point is that "owns a MILLION DOLLAR CONDO" means that means that we should handwave away any sense that coming up as a minority woman from the projects and getting to where she is is anything you might give her some credit for. It's proof, really, that she's no different than any given upper white class man. Except for maybe the leg up from affirmative action.

[TB, that's not directed at you, really. But I know where I've seen this point raised before in recent weeks. And it's not good company to be in.]


Hil R. - Jun 05, 2009 5:28:24 pm PDT #22996 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I think, before everything went to hell, first year associates in large firms were starting at about $120,000.

Yep.


Trudy Booth - Jun 05, 2009 5:29:52 pm PDT #22997 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

For New York, really, that isn't huge. It's in the range of not having to worry too much about money, but still way below, say, Real Housewives territory. That's upper-middle class for New York, I'd say.

We need actual definitions for these things, you know? Are there any? I'd give a single person with that salary even in NYC a little more of a bump than upper middle class.

Of course, here in America it seems like most people think they are middle class. And in a few years they'll be rich.


Trudy Booth - Jun 05, 2009 5:31:46 pm PDT #22998 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

It's proof, really, that she's no different than any given upper white class man. Except for maybe the leg up from affirmative action.

THIS is why I suggest the little red lapel stars. Nothing flashy. It just keeps you from getting away with the every man schtick or acting like John Edwards is blowing you out of the water financially.


brenda m - Jun 05, 2009 5:33:35 pm PDT #22999 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

It was clear that I was being sarcastic there, right?

I'm totally with you on the stars - but she's not remotely in that category.