Sometimes I miss having powers... Oh. Oh! I know what this is! This is peer pressure! Any second now you're gonna make me smoke tobacco and--and have drugs!

Anya ,'Showtime'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - May 26, 2009 9:21:41 am PDT #21202 of 30000
Coding and Sleeping

Sorry about CA being wrong.


megan walker - May 26, 2009 9:31:10 am PDT #21203 of 30000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Legally, I'm not sure what they could do really. It's the majority of voters that fucked it up.


Stephanie - May 26, 2009 9:35:49 am PDT #21204 of 30000
Trust my rage

I don't know - it seems like they could have said, regardless of the majority, fundamental rights are protected and can't be voted away. I don't know - I'm unfamiliar with the case, so I'm just guessing.


megan walker - May 26, 2009 9:53:09 am PDT #21205 of 30000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Well, then it shouldn't have been on the ballot in the first place. But, admittedly, I don't know the process for that. Do other Californians who have been here longer know if there was a challenge pre-ballot? I assumed there was.


Jesse - May 26, 2009 9:57:40 am PDT #21206 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

It seems to me that the whole CA proposition system shows why representative democracy is better than straight-up democracy.


bon bon - May 26, 2009 10:03:13 am PDT #21207 of 30000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

A challenge to the prop before the election might have been dismissed because of concerns for ripeness -- it's a complicated doctrine but generally courts can decline to hear cases where the claimed harm has not yet and may never come to pass.


Typo Boy - May 26, 2009 10:05:15 am PDT #21208 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

And in terms of ruling on principle. Aside from whatever legal doctrines may come into play, California has a provision where judges have to be confirmed by being reelected occasionally. The possibility of being Elizabeth Rose Birded has to cross their minds when making rulings.


Jessica - May 26, 2009 10:13:45 am PDT #21209 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Comment seen on Twitter:

It's like saying "If you already sat in the front of the bus I guess it's ok, but your friend over there? No dice."


-t - May 26, 2009 10:17:44 am PDT #21210 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

It's still shocking to me that we can apparently amend the constitution with a simple majority on a voter initiative but we can't approve a budget without 2/3 of the legislature. That's just bizarre.

I would love it if some city clerk decides to start issuing marriage licenses with the dates altered so they fall into that window of legality.


tommyrot - May 26, 2009 10:20:15 am PDT #21211 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

It's still shocking to me that we can apparently amend the constitution with a simple majority on a voter initiative but we can't approve a budget without 2/3 of the legislature. That's just bizarre.

California = Wacky.

Did people see the Krugman editorial on how Republicans have wrecked California?

State of Paralysis