yeah, I don't get danger from romantic/Romantic - adventure, sure, freedom, sure, passion, sure. None of that has to mean danger or violence or badness - not to me.
Poor Buffy. Your life resists all things average.
Willow ,'First Date'
Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
msbelle - Apr 09, 2009 6:07:42 pm PDT #14657 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
Kat - Apr 09, 2009 6:13:23 pm PDT #14658 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
And, according to Wordnik:
Some things Romance means
4. A mysterious or fascinating quality or appeal, as of something adventurous, heroic, or strangely beautiful:
6. A long fictitious tale of heroes and extraordinary or mysterious events, usually set in a distant time or place.
Neither of those really apply to pirates. The rest deal with sexual love or romance langauge.
Trudy Booth - Apr 09, 2009 6:41:10 pm PDT #14659 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
4. A mysterious or fascinating quality or appeal, as of something adventurous, heroic, or strangely beautiful
Well, Pirates are certainly adventurous.
As far as Pirate Utopias... the Antebellum South was a bit of a Utopia too -- it certainly is to the people who think it will rise again. Sparta was great as long as you were strong. Athens was great if you weren't a woman. As soon as we can concoct a paradise that isn't dependant on the exploitation on a chunk of humans I'll feel comfortable calling it a utopia.
When I was a kid I lived on an island with a pirate history. All the teams were pirates. The annual festival had pirate costume contests. It was deffinately a "thing".
But hand in hand with all the fun there was frequent mention of, "You know these weren't great guys, right? They were murderers. They were thieves. This is a game." I don't really see that in the pirate glee nowadays.
Kat - Apr 09, 2009 6:56:41 pm PDT #14660 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
Trudy Booth - Apr 09, 2009 6:59:13 pm PDT #14661 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
What the fuck with Hotmail wanting me to get a windows LIVE id to get to my fucking mail and then not letting me get one?
I just want to check my fucking mail. I was able to an hour ago. Fuckers.
DavidS - Apr 09, 2009 7:00:03 pm PDT #14662 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
And, according to Wordnik:
It has to do with a literary tradition derived from Medieval Romances. To cite a dictionary in this instance is like saying the Ramones aren't punk rock because Merriam-Webster said the Sex Pistols are punk rock. You're cherry picking one of many meanings and missing the entire history.
To argue that pirates are not romantic figures is so far from my frame of reference that I don't even have the energy to connect the dots from Amadis of Gaul to Orlando Furioso to Dafoe to Byron to Robert Louis Stevenson to Sabatini to the Dread Pirate Roberts.
Trudy Booth - Apr 09, 2009 7:03:14 pm PDT #14663 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Pretty much anyone can be a romantic figure if you hype them enough. Dick Cheney? Outsider! Rebel! Not held captive by silly laws! Thirst for power! blah blah blah
§ ita § - Apr 09, 2009 7:07:12 pm PDT #14664 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Aiee! I miss new clothes. Not that I have much call to wear much variety, but those pieces make me drool, Kat.
Kat - Apr 09, 2009 7:08:38 pm PDT #14665 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
bitchy post deleted.
Ah, nothing like a hot shower to even a temper.
Kat - Apr 09, 2009 7:09:28 pm PDT #14666 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
ita, I also like the underbust cinchers in red and white stripes.