Cordelia: I get it now. You're all spies. Probably all Russian. And you've brainwashed me, and want me to believe we're friends so I'll spill the beans about some nano-technology thingy that you want. Gunn: So I look Russian to you? Cordelia: Black Russian. Angel: That's a drink.

'Hell Bound'


Natter 63: Life after PuppyCam  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Trudy Booth - Apr 09, 2009 6:41:10 pm PDT #14659 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

4. A mysterious or fascinating quality or appeal, as of something adventurous, heroic, or strangely beautiful

Well, Pirates are certainly adventurous.

As far as Pirate Utopias... the Antebellum South was a bit of a Utopia too -- it certainly is to the people who think it will rise again. Sparta was great as long as you were strong. Athens was great if you weren't a woman. As soon as we can concoct a paradise that isn't dependant on the exploitation on a chunk of humans I'll feel comfortable calling it a utopia.

When I was a kid I lived on an island with a pirate history. All the teams were pirates. The annual festival had pirate costume contests. It was deffinately a "thing".

But hand in hand with all the fun there was frequent mention of, "You know these weren't great guys, right? They were murderers. They were thieves. This is a game." I don't really see that in the pirate glee nowadays.


Kat - Apr 09, 2009 6:56:41 pm PDT #14660 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

ita, so very you even if it isn't silver!

Or this one.


Trudy Booth - Apr 09, 2009 6:59:13 pm PDT #14661 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

What the fuck with Hotmail wanting me to get a windows LIVE id to get to my fucking mail and then not letting me get one?

I just want to check my fucking mail. I was able to an hour ago. Fuckers.


DavidS - Apr 09, 2009 7:00:03 pm PDT #14662 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

And, according to Wordnik:

It has to do with a literary tradition derived from Medieval Romances. To cite a dictionary in this instance is like saying the Ramones aren't punk rock because Merriam-Webster said the Sex Pistols are punk rock. You're cherry picking one of many meanings and missing the entire history.

To argue that pirates are not romantic figures is so far from my frame of reference that I don't even have the energy to connect the dots from Amadis of Gaul to Orlando Furioso to Dafoe to Byron to Robert Louis Stevenson to Sabatini to the Dread Pirate Roberts.


Trudy Booth - Apr 09, 2009 7:03:14 pm PDT #14663 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Pretty much anyone can be a romantic figure if you hype them enough. Dick Cheney? Outsider! Rebel! Not held captive by silly laws! Thirst for power! blah blah blah


§ ita § - Apr 09, 2009 7:07:12 pm PDT #14664 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Aiee! I miss new clothes. Not that I have much call to wear much variety, but those pieces make me drool, Kat.


Kat - Apr 09, 2009 7:08:38 pm PDT #14665 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

bitchy post deleted.

Ah, nothing like a hot shower to even a temper.


Kat - Apr 09, 2009 7:09:28 pm PDT #14666 of 30000
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

ita, I also like the underbust cinchers in red and white stripes.


Sue - Apr 09, 2009 7:17:19 pm PDT #14667 of 30000
hip deep in pie

I think I am speechless:

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Barb - Apr 09, 2009 7:19:54 pm PDT #14668 of 30000
“Not dead yet!”

I think I am speechless:

Right there with you, Sue. Right there with you.