That's pretty much exactly where I go when I think of punk.
billytea! Don't embrace the wrongheadedness!
I'd rather stay home and watch television. It's often funnier than killing stuff.
Anya ,'Dirty Girls'
Buffista Music 4: Needs More Cowbell!
There's a lady plays her fav'rite records/On the jukebox ev'ry day/All day long she plays the same old songs/And she believes the things that they say/She sings along with all the saddest songs/And she believes the stories are real/She lets the music dictate the way that she feels.
DavidS - Mar 27, 2013 11:25:56 am PDT #5598 of 6436
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
billytea - Mar 27, 2013 11:30:42 am PDT #5599 of 6436
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
billytea! Don't embrace the wrongheadedness!
Eh. I'm not trying to define the genre, that's just the punk with which I'm familiar. (Unlike New Wave, where I'm familiar with, and largely like, the American oeuvre, I just prefer the UK sound.)
Tom Scola - Mar 27, 2013 11:37:10 am PDT #5600 of 6436
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500
Someone once told me he considered Punk to consist of the Sex Pistols and other British bands involved in the UK punk scene in '76 and '77. And that was it.
Except, of course, Estonian bands in 2013.
Volans - Mar 27, 2013 11:44:28 am PDT #5601 of 6436
move out and draw fire
Interestingly, I was coming in here to ask y'all how to explain or describe Punk to Mal, and who to play for him. I tend to reach for Ramones and Dead Kennedys and Milkmen, but clearly Sex Pistols...
What makes something punk? Why do they throw themselves off the stage? Why do they dress like that? These are the questions I get.
(Also, "Why don't you like country music?" but that's another topic.)
DavidS - Mar 27, 2013 11:55:15 am PDT #5602 of 6436
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
What makes something punk?
It's the "No!" that means "Yes!" (rejecting false affirmatives, destruction as an aspect of creation, "turning away in disgust is not the same thing as apathy", if the game is rigged don't play by the rules)
Why do they throw themselves off the stage?
Because: (a) it's reckless; and (b) they know somebody will catch them. Two core tenets of punk. Risk and community.
Why do they dress like that?
It's cheap and it makes a statement (see above for "No!").
Cass - Mar 27, 2013 12:36:59 pm PDT #5603 of 6436
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
He should clearly join Duran Duran.
But that would make things confusing.
P.M. Marc - Mar 27, 2013 12:40:58 pm PDT #5604 of 6436
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
But that would make things confusing.
Only hilariously so!
Besides, it fits the whole dynamic of X number of pretty boys (is it three or four now? is Roger still back in the band? I lose track.) + one kinda fug dude with a massive ego.
Trudy Booth - Mar 27, 2013 12:48:44 pm PDT #5605 of 6436
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
What makes something punk? Why do they throw themselves off the stage? Why do they dress like that? These are the questions I get.
I was asked those very questions today! Well, not about stage diving, I don't think she knows about stage diving.
Cass - Mar 27, 2013 1:04:44 pm PDT #5606 of 6436
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
Only hilariously so!
I take it back. They don't have Andy any longer. Andrew Eldritch must join. Then the band might not be all original members but it will have all of the original member names accounted for and that's funny to me.
Also Roger was not the cute one.
billytea - Mar 27, 2013 1:31:43 pm PDT #5607 of 6436
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
Slate did a series on the history of prog last year:
Heh. That looks more like a history of Keith Emerson.
Check out this 60-minute concert (5 songs) of Genesis with Peter Gabriel from 1973:
That was fantastic, in all senses of the word. And occasionally hilarious. I found it to be quintessentially British. (Perhaps not surprisingly, since Peter Gabriel at one point dresses up as Britannia, and the songs are from the album Selling England By The Pound.)
Going back to the Slate series, it's pretty easy to understand the charges of pretentiousness, and I can see prog rock basically collapsing under its own weight. What I don't understand - ok, so prog rock these days gets treated as something of an embarrassment in music history. How did Pink Floyd avoid that fate?