Mal: And I never back down from a fight. Inara: Yes, you do! You do all the time!

'Shindig'


Buffista Music 4: Needs More Cowbell!

There's a lady plays her fav'rite records/On the jukebox ev'ry day/All day long she plays the same old songs/And she believes the things that they say/She sings along with all the saddest songs/And she believes the stories are real/She lets the music dictate the way that she feels.


billytea - Mar 27, 2013 1:31:43 pm PDT #5607 of 6436
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Slate did a series on the history of prog last year:

Heh. That looks more like a history of Keith Emerson.

Check out this 60-minute concert (5 songs) of Genesis with Peter Gabriel from 1973:

That was fantastic, in all senses of the word. And occasionally hilarious. I found it to be quintessentially British. (Perhaps not surprisingly, since Peter Gabriel at one point dresses up as Britannia, and the songs are from the album Selling England By The Pound.)

Going back to the Slate series, it's pretty easy to understand the charges of pretentiousness, and I can see prog rock basically collapsing under its own weight. What I don't understand - ok, so prog rock these days gets treated as something of an embarrassment in music history. How did Pink Floyd avoid that fate?


Amy - Mar 27, 2013 1:34:05 pm PDT #5608 of 6436
Because books.

Yes was prog, right? I always forget that early Genesis was, too.

How did Pink Floyd avoid that fate?

Because Pink Floyd is awesome?

I can see something like "Animals" being called prog, whereas "The Wall" was more concept. If that makes a difference.


DavidS - Mar 27, 2013 1:36:30 pm PDT #5609 of 6436
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

How did Pink Floyd avoid that fate?

Roger Waters was writing great songs born out of his personal bitterness over his father being killed in WWII. Lot more grounded.


Tom Scola - Mar 27, 2013 1:42:34 pm PDT #5610 of 6436
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

By the time that Dark Side of the Moon came out in 1973, they had moved on from many of the prog-rock conventions (that they helped invent), in favor of shorter, more radio-friendly songs.


billytea - Mar 27, 2013 1:50:04 pm PDT #5611 of 6436
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Because Pink Floyd is awesome?

Unquestionably!

Roger Waters was writing great songs born out of his personal bitterness over his father being killed in WWII. Lot more grounded.

I think grounded is the word. The songs in Dark Side Of The Moon are solidly rooted in the concerns of everyday life. (Well, and fears of madness, but still not a fantastic fear.) Overall, compared to other prog rock albums I feel there's more human feeling and fewer cyborg armadillos in their work.


Atropa - Mar 27, 2013 1:53:51 pm PDT #5612 of 6436
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Besides, it fits the whole dynamic of X number of pretty boys (is it three or four now? is Roger still back in the band? I lose track.) + one kinda fug dude with a massive ego.

I agree with this plan. Like, a lot.


P.M. Marc - Mar 27, 2013 1:57:43 pm PDT #5613 of 6436
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Also Roger was not the cute one.

No, but he AGED the best. Simon was the best-looking of the bunch when they were young, but Roger's years out of the loop dealing with depression and stuff means he doesn't have the Creepy Old Rock Star look thing going on. I mean, John has been morphing slowly into Keith Richards, I'm fairly certain that if Nick has any more work done, he'll turn into Elton John and Joan River's unholy offspring, and Simon, well, OK, he mostly just looks like Wil Wheaton's older brother now. It's disconcerting.

But Roger still looks... pretty good.


P.M. Marc - Mar 27, 2013 1:58:32 pm PDT #5614 of 6436
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Oh, Christ.

I've just outed myself to more than just you and Jilli as having not just an opinion on this, but years and years of thinking and musing on it.


Atropa - Mar 27, 2013 2:07:43 pm PDT #5615 of 6436
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I mean, John has been morphing slowly into Keith Richards

SHUT UP.

(Okay, fine, you're right. I just don't like agreeing about it.)


P.M. Marc - Mar 27, 2013 2:14:38 pm PDT #5616 of 6436
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

(Okay, fine, you're right. I just don't like agreeing about it.)

It's sad, but true.